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    Delinquent contributions - large to small plan

    TPApril
    By TPApril,

    Takeover plan was being done in house (no tpa).

    Reviewing 401(k) deposits back to 2011 (2010 5500 is last to report delinquent contributions).

    2011-2013 as large plan did not file audit report, and will not pay for audit report now

    In 2014 plan went from large to small

    Average delay from payroll date to deposit date from 2011-2013 is 35 days, though one time they deposited in 6 days.

    Contemplating the following:

    -how many years to review? to 2011, or back 3 years?

    -apply small plan safe harbor of 7 days to analyze large plan timing, or apply 6 days or 35 days or until 15th of following month for that period?

    A thought would be appreciated:)


    ADP Failure in Making Timely Corrective Distributions

    Mr Bagwell
    By Mr Bagwell,

    We brought in a new plan in April 2016 and found out in March 2017 that the 2015 ADP refunds were not distributed.

    In lieu of QNEC, I think the one-to-one correction method (refunding excess contributions too) is going to be the cheapest route for fixing.  I cannot find the in the EPCRS language or in the EOB books that this is also a QNEC deposit.  The EOB just says "corrected with a contribution".

    This correcting contribution is a QNEC, right?

    Thanks


    First RMD after age 70 1/2

    Vlad401k
    By Vlad401k,

    Let's say a participant is 75. He's not an owner so he didn't have to start taking RMDs at any point in time. Then, let's say he gets terminated in the middle of 2017. The first RMD is now due to be paid by April 1, 2018. 

    What happens if the participant decides to rollover the entire balance to another plan or IRA? Can he do that or would he have to take the first RMD before rolling anything over into another plan?

     

    Thanks.


    Extending DROP Period

    luissaha
    By luissaha,

    Governmental defined benefit plan contains a provision that allows certain employees to extend their DROP periods using accrued annual leave.  Employees have the option to cash out leave or use the hours to extend their DROP period.  This looks like a CODA to me because the employees have the option to cash out or us leave hours to extend DROP.  Am I wrong on this?  Any help would be appreciated. 


    contribution limits

    cpc0506
    By cpc0506,

    Employee/Owner A made $53,000 last year.  He deferred $24,000 (he was catch up eligible for 2016).  Employer makes a safe harbor match contribution of 100% of deferrals up to 4%.  So his calculated safe harbor match is $2,120.  Employee/Owner would like to maximize his contribution.  There is enough non-owner compensation that we do not need to worry about the company's 25% deductible limit.

    I have calculated his profit sharing as $26,880.  Another colleague is saying he can receive 32,880 in profit sharing since he is catch up eligible and his limit is actually $59,000 and not $53,000.  But I did not think that he could receive more than 100% of his compensation.

    Who is correct?


    Requesting Relief from Section 411 Debarment

    Eric Taylor
    By Eric Taylor,

    Does anyone have experience in seeking relief for a Section 411 debarment--i.e., relief permitting convicted felon to serve as consultant to an employee benefit plan prior to the 13-year restriction period?  We have client who just discovered that they have long-term employee with felony conviction covered under Section 411.  Employee is a clerical worker in insurance agency / TPA type group that does work for group benefit plans.

    In particular, I am interested in thoughts / experience around:

    • Assume individual is prohibited from serving even in a clerical type position if some of the employer's services constitute consulting for ERISA plans
    • Any sense how long it usually takes to pursue relief / how much time and effort is typically required assuming relatively sympathetic case--conviction more than 10 years ago and individual has been clean and conviction had some sympathetic facts (innocent spouse type issues)
    • Any thought that client is in trouble for unknowingly employing individual for the prior few years when was unaware of law, her conviction and there has been no trouble plus has taken action to suspend her work while investigating.

    Thanks for any advice anyone may have.


    Poll

    jpod
    By jpod,

    For DB plan terminations subject to PBGC requirements, other than for "small" plans (let's say more than 25 or more participants), what is your experience on the division of responsibilities?

    1.  No ERISA attorney involvement; plan actuary prepares all filings, notices, any necessary plan amendments, and represents plan sponsor/plan administrator before PBGC and, if applicable, IRS.

    2.  Plan actuary does everything, subject to ERISA attorney review.

    3.  ERISA attorney does everything except calculations and certifications required by the actuary.

    4.  Other?  

     


    Timely 5500-EZ, Delinquent Schedule SB

    Dougsbpc
    By Dougsbpc,

    We administered a 1 participant defined benefit plan for a number of years. The plan had a 30% investment loss one year and the business owner got upset with us when we gave him the minimum contribution for the year. It was, of course, somewhat higher than in previous years. In any event, he left us. A year later he came back. It turned out he prepared and filed the 5500-EZ timely and the company funded the plan properly. The only problem is no schedule SB was prepared or filed for that year.

    So the 5500-EZ was filed on time but we will need our actuary to currently sign the schedule SB that should have been signed about a year ago.

    I would think if the plan were audited, we would get charged the $1,000 for a late schedule SB. Do you think that because the schedule SB is part of the 5500-EZ that we would also be charged $25 per day for a delinquent filing of the 5500-EZ?

    We could file under the delinquent 5500-EZ program, but the instructions indicate that they do not want the schedule SB included in the submission. This because it was not required to be filed in the first place.

     


    Annuities within an IRA

    joel
    By joel,

    Is the taxpayer exempt from the 10 percent penalty tax when making a pre-age 59.5 withdrawal from the annuity contract?


    Prior Year ADP Testing in Takeover Plan

    Towanda
    By Towanda,

    We took over a plan in 2016 that uses prior year testing.  I need to run the ADP test for 2016, and I cannot find where in Relius I would enter the prior year NHCE ADP so that I can run the 2016 test.  Is there a place it can be entered, or should we have created a 2015 plan year for this purpose?  Groan.

    Relius is closed, it's Friday, and I'd like to get this completed before Monday if anyone can provide assistance.

    Thanks!


    8955-SSA Filing Software

    WhatsESUP
    By WhatsESUP,

    I need suggestions on 8955-SSA filing software. All I need is something for the 8955 electronic filing. 

    The IRS site provides a list of vendors but the vendor websites do not provide much information.

    Thought I'd check here for reviews before calling the vendors listed.

    Thank you


    Safe Harbor Loan Provisions

    RRivera
    By RRivera,

    I have looked everywhere for the rules pertaining to safe harbor loan provisions. 

    Does anyone have any documentation in reference to this topic? 


    RAP and old plan document

    mcw
    By mcw,

    Rev. Proc. 2017-18 provides that the RAP begins on 1/1/10 and ends on 3/31/20.  Therefore, a 403(b) plan sponsor can adopt a prototype or VS plan by 3/31/20 retroactive to 1/1/10 and correct any issue with the old plan document.  However, a condition to this extended RAP is that the plan sponsor adopt a written plan document “intended to satisfy the §403(b) requirements” before 1/1/10.  Announcement 2009-89 says that you have to adopt a written plan document that is intended to satisfy the requirements of §403(b) “and the regulations” before 1/1/10.  I have been contacted by a client to restate their 403(b) plan.  However, the only written plan document they can find is a Corbel document signed in 2001.  My question is do you think they qualify for the 3/31/20 RAP and can just restate the document retroactive to 1/1/10?  My thought is that the 2001 plan can’t have “intended to satisfy the regulations” because it was signed before the 2007 regs were issued.  I hope I am wrong and can avoid VCP.


    Qualifying Employer Real Property Questions

    ERISA-Bubs
    By ERISA-Bubs,

    Under the prohibited transaction rules, an employer can make an in-kind contribution of real property to a DB plan if (among other things) the real property constitutes "Qualifying Employer Real Property."  I have a few questions regarding what constitutes QERP.

    1. One requirement for property to be QERP is that it must be suitable for more than one use.  This is a "facts and circumstances" determination, but I haven't seen any real guidance as to what this means.  Does anyone have anything on that?
    2. I have read through all the PTEs I can find, but I can't find a case of an employer donating foreign property to a DB plan.  Is there any reason foreign property shouldn't constitute QERP?

    Thanks in advance for any help!


    Profit Sharing Calculation and Compensation

    Mr Bagwell
    By Mr Bagwell,

    Plan compensation is W-2 plus deferrals and excludes fringe.

    The Employer decided to do a profit sharing for 2016 and calculated the profit sharing on the gross compensation.  Out of 300 employees, only maybe 60 "could" be affected as they had some other pretax items come from their pay.  I would say most of the employees still received the correct profit sharing because the w-2 pay plus deferrals was the gross compensation.  If anything the 60 get a little more than they should have.(Got* not get.) edited

    Auditor is bringing this scenario up as a topic of interest.

    The employer is looking to me to help ease the audit question.

    I don't find this to be that objectionable.  Should I?

    Let me know your thoughts on this.


    Death benefit - No beneficiary

    401(k)athryn
    By 401(k)athryn,

    A participant dies at age 37.  He had no 401(k) Plan beneficiary form on file.  He has about $6,000 in his account.  In the absence of a beneficiary designation, the plan document states that the death benefit shall be payable to the Participant's spouse or, if there is no spouse, to the Participant's children in equal shares or, if there are no children to the Participant's estate.

    The participant had no spouse and no children.  His parents also predeceased him.  There is a great aunt who has indicated that no one will be establishing an estate and no one will be claiming the retirement funds.  She had been advised that, as great aunt, she would not be entitled to the money.  Instead, it would go to the deceased participant's first cousins (of which there are 14), who either have no knowledge or no intention of creating an estate.

    What should be done with the money if there is no estate or other beneficiary? 

     


    Employer withheld 401k election amount twice

    Dkozer
    By Dkozer,

    I elected to have 6% of my earnings withheld to my 401k, however, my employer has been making that 6% deduction twice each pay period for the past 8 months. It was just discovered when I raised my election to 20%. Now my employer tells me they have deactivated my 401k withholding and I will not be able to contribute until  6% of each of my upcoming pays equals the amount that they over withheld. I have no issue with the amount they over withheld staying in my 401k as is and just moving forward with my new election percentage, however, they say it is not possible. Is it acceptable for this employer to keep me from putting money into my 401k because of a mistake they made? I am over 50 years old.


    Is a Qualified Small Employer Health Reimbursement Arrangement an ERISA-governed welfare plan?

    Peter Gulia
    By Peter Gulia,

    If an employer's arrangement to reimburse an eligible employee's payment of a premium for an individual health insurance contract follows all the rules and conditions for a qualified small employer health reimbursement arrangement ["QSEHRA"] described in Internal Revenue Code section 9831(d), the arrangement is not a group health plan for ERISA section 607(1) or 733(a)(1).

    But do other ERISA issues remain?

    Does the employer's reimbursement of its employee's premium paid for individual health insurance make the arrangement a welfare plan defined in ERISA section 3?

    Must a QSEHRA be stated by a written plan?

    Must a QSEHRA's administrator furnish a summary plan description?

    Must a QSEHRA's administrator adopt and follow a claims procedure?

    What further issues should we think about?

     


    Happy 4th of July to you all!

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    Have a great day.


    Deductibility of one-time large contribution to fully fund and terminate DB.

    RayJJohnsonJr
    By RayJJohnsonJr,

    The CPA of the client asks me for my insight, which I have little of, in this case.  The business owners have been wanting to terminate their DB Plan for some time.  They say if they make a one-time contribution of about $20 million, the DB will be fully funded and then can be terminated.  The business owners ask, what is the tax deductibility of the $20 million contribution?  For example: in the current year?

    Thank you,

    Ray


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