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    Termination Benefit Options

    Fielding Mellish
    By Fielding Mellish,

    Defined contribution plan that says that a Participant may take a distribution if he doesn't have any employer contributions made to the Plan for 6 months.

    Can a Plan provide that, upon this occurrence, the Participant may elect any of the forms of benefit offered by the Plan? For example, if the Plan offers non-periodic installments, can that be offered for this termination benefit?

    So if the Participant has a $100,000 balance, if he doesn't have contributions for 6 months, can he apply to take out $20,000 and leave the other $80,000 in the Plan?

    Thanks.


    IRA funding deadline vs tax filing

    ombskid
    By ombskid,

    Can you file your 1040 early i.e. before 4/15 and still have until 4/15 to fund your IRA?


    VCP Plan Loan Correction - Meaning of Term "Rate of Return under the Plan."

    rocknrolls2
    By rocknrolls2,

    A client has a number of participants who took out plan loans and then default due either to failure to make repayments or termination of employment. The client is filing under VCP and proposing to correct by reamortizing those loans to allow a longer period of correction for those participants who are within the five-year period for repaying plan loans. According to Section 6.02(6) of Rev. Proc. 2013-12, "the employer should pay a portion of the correction payment on behalf of the participant equal to the interest that accumulates as a result of such failure--generally determined at a rate equal to the greater of the plan loan interest rate or the rate of return under the plan." Does anyone have any thoughts on the meaning of the term "rate of return under the plan?" It might be easiest if the client took the pure earnings amounts on the previous year's Form 5500 and compared it to the beginning plan balance to arrive at the "rate of return under the plan." Thoughts?


    410(b)(6) transition rule

    jpod
    By jpod,

    Facts are fairly simple. Corp A owns 100% of Corp B, operating separate businesses. Each has a 401k plan (calendar plan year) with different structures and each has comfortably passed ratio percentage year after year. Before the end of 2015 Corp A will sell virtually all of its assets to an unrelated buyer, and all of the employees will go with buyer except Corp A's CEO and CFO who will stay on payroll for a while to handle a variety of clean up and other matters and will receive compensation. Corp A's plan will not be terminated. CEO and CFO will be HCEs for 2016. Does Corp A's plan get the benefit of 410(b)(6) through 12/31/16?


    Plan Termination

    30Rock
    By 30Rock,

    When a 401k plan terminates mid year, I know this creates a short limitation year and the 415 limit is pro-rated. However what happens to the compensation limit for allocation purposes and ADP and ACP testing? Do you use partial year compensation, full year or compensation up to the date the 5500 is filed?

    Thanks!


    Aggregating for Coverage, but Diff Testing Methods

    austin3515
    By austin3515,

    Two plans, one with all the HCE's and one with all the NHCE's. The HCE Plan uses prior year testing and the NHCE Plan uses CY testing. I need to aggregate to pass coverage. Is EPCRS my only option?

    [obviously, no one knew about the coordination rules - the operation of the entities was quite disparate].


    Not following terms of the Plan - Employer Risk

    waid10
    By waid10,

    We have recently changed our health plan from 20 hours per week to 30 hours per week to be eligible. We have a few employees that will no longer be eligible due to the change. My boss in HR wants to grant an exception to a few (not all) of those employees affected; as in, he wants to continue to cover them even though they don't meet the Plan's eligibility requirements. Can anyone help me to understand what the risks are in doing this?

    Thanks.


    Calendar year in which the employee retires from employment with the employer maintaining the plan.

    pookah
    By pookah,

    Employee is 72. His last day at work was 12/31/14 and he worked a full day. He did not go back to work in 2015. What is the "calendar year in which the employee retires from employment"? 2014 or 2015?

    I don't find any support anywhere, but I would contend that in 2014 he was still working. In 2015 he was retired, making his required beginning date 4/1/16.

    Thoughts? Support?


    ACP Safe Harbor

    austin3515
    By austin3515,

    I know that a plan MUST match catch-ups as part of the Safe Harbor Match Calculation. What about a discretionary match that otherwise satisfies all of the ACP Safe Harbor Requirements (in my case, the match is 50% of the first 4%, no allocation conditions).

    I know what you're thinking, 18,000/265,000 is way more than 4% anyway so who cares? The catch here is, the match is calculated each pay-period, and as such towards the end of the year eligible deferrals will be zero. So it actually does end up making a difference.

    Corbel's document seems to prohibit excluding catch-ups for either the ADP or ACP safe harbor's. Fidelity's on the other hand seems to apply exclusively to Safe Harbor Match calcs.


    Normal Retirement Age Amendment - Need help

    amoy
    By amoy,

    Recently, we took over a plan. In the original plan document, the normal retirement age was age 55 and 10 years of service. Effective as of 01/01/2009, the normal retirement age was amended to be age 62 and 5 years of participation due to IRS final regulation with respect to the normal retirement age back in 2007. But there is an early retirement age definition in the current plan document which is age 55 and 10 years of service, no reduction for the early retirement benefit. I assume it is used to protect the benefit was accrued before the amendment.

    So there is a participant eligible on 01/01/2009, terminated in 2014 and he is age 38 in 2015. His accrual benefit based on the plan document is $1,000 per month. Below is the normal retirement benefit definition from the plan document.

    "Normal retirement benefit. The amount of monthly retirement benefit to be provided for each Participant who retires on the

    Participant's Normal Retirement Date shall be equal to the Participant's Accrued Benefit (herein called the Participant's Normal
    Retirement Benefit). A Participant's Accrued Benefit is based on a retirement benefit formula equal to 3.25% of such Participant's
    Average Monthly Compensation multiplied by the Participant's total number of Plan Years of Service (up to a maximum of 11 years),
    computed to the nearest cent."
    For my understanding, this participant was eligible on the same date the amendment became effective. So this $1,000 per month should be as of his normal retirement age which is 62. The early retirement age (55+10YOS) is not applicable to him.
    Am I correct?
    If yes, how about the participant eligible before 01/01/2009? Suppose Robert was eligible on 01/01/2008, terminated in 2014, and age 38 in 2015. His accrual benefit in 2014 is $1,000 per month. Is this $1,000 as of age 55 or age 62?

    401(k) employee contribution missed for 12/24/2014

    lbrenneman
    By lbrenneman,

    During the gathering of year to date compensation and contributions for the ACP ADP testing, it was discovered that 11 people had a prize that was run through payroll and had an employee contribution taken. There was also one manual check. This was done on 12/24/2014. This is not a typical payroll day so the payroll provider did not send the contribution file to the 401(k) provider. The grand total of the contributions is $148.00. Should we be filing a 5330? Will it trigger any red flags for the IRS? DOL?


    Confusion about 5500-EZ instructions

    robbie
    By robbie,

    I have a solo 401k with >$250k, so have to file. I have received contradictory advice on how to report contributions for, say, 2014, that are actually made in 2015. Some say that they should be included in calculating the end-of-year plan assets, rather than the actual balance on December 31. Others (including Fidelity) say to follow a cash balance rather than an accrual method and not include the deposits made in 2015 on the 2014 form. Another source said one follows a "modified" cash balance and therefor should include these contributions.

    Is there any consensus on this. Which advice should I follow?

    Thanks


    Returning Employer Contributoin

    Chey1999
    By Chey1999,

    I have a Prevailing Wage plan. The PW funds come into the plan as QNEC. The plan fails the 401 (a) (4) testing and a HCE needs to be corrected. Can the funds be return to the employer?


    Correction for "brief period" improper exclusion

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    While this is actually regarding a SIMPLE-IRA plan, let's use a 401(k) as an example.

    Suppose someone should have been eligible to defer as of January 1, 2015. They were inadvertently excluded from being able to make deferrals until March 1, 2015 - well within the 3-month period allowed for "brief period" exclusions under Rev. Proc. 2013-12, Appendix B, Section 2.02(F). No other limitations in the plan on what can be deferred - up to the IRS limits. Matching formula is 100% up to 3%.

    So, there is no required contribution for "missed deferrals." But there is a contribution required, or potentially required, for missed match.

    My question is twofold. First, if an employee chooses NOT to defer for 2015, is there any required make-up for missed match? It seems to me that there should not be, but the language/example isn't all that clear to me. The Example 7 seems to contemplate a per payroll situation, and it doesn't seem reasonable to me to apply this to someone who elects not to defer at all.

    Second, if the answer to the above is that a missed match make-up contribution is required, then I'd assume it would simply be 3% of compensation for the improper exclusion period.

    Now, for someone who actually defers, if the match isn't calculated on a per payroll basis, then it seems like it can't be calculated until the end of the year. Suppose the employee elects to defer 10%. Compensation for the improper exclusion period is 10,000, and compensation for the remainder of the year is 50,000. So the employee defers 5,000. Since the match is 100% up to 3% of compensation ($60,000 x .03 = $1,800) there's no additional special make-up match for the exclusion period 'cause the deferral was sufficient to receive the maximum match anyway.

    I'd appreciate any thoughts on the above.


    Service Based Exclusions

    LANDO
    By LANDO,

    I have a plan that excludes "full-time students", and then goes on to define "full-time students" as follows: an Employee is a full-time student for any period during which the Employee is enrolled as a full-time student or is between academic years/terms at an educational institution and there is reasonable assurance the Employees will be a full-time student the next academic year/term.

    The plan does not include a 410(a) failsafe for eligibility, so I assume someone thought this would be a reasonable business classification not based on service.

    I am just digging into this, and am trying to figure out what I need to know to evaluate this. Do I need to know if there are both full and part-time employees that fall into this classification? Seems that even classifications that end up excluding only part-time employees could still be legitimate business classification...for example, all the employees at location A are part-time and the plan excludes location A employees.

    Since the employer/plan sponsor wouldn't have any control over whether an employee is a full-time student, how can this be a legit business classification? What if a full-time student decided not to go back to school, when would they enter the plan?

    Can someone help me get my head around this one?


    Amending Plan for Automatic Enrollment

    TPA Bob
    By TPA Bob,

    Have a client that wants to add a Automatic Contribution Arrangement (ACA) and not an EACA or QACA. They want to do as soon as possible.

    Do we have to wait until the beginning of the next plan year to adopt? Or can we amend mid year. Seems clear to me that an EACA and QACA must be at beginning of year but have conflicting view points on ACA.

    Thanks in advance.


    0% accrual by definition

    Bri
    By Bri,

    So, I've taken a job where some of the DB plans have separate accrual rates for separate groups of employees.

    A lot of the times, the accrual rate for a specific group is 0%.

    We're not counting people in these groups towards our 401(a)(26) count, since there's no meaningful benefit accruing for them.

    Now - let's take an example where the plan is combined with a 401(k) plan, and they're top heavy.

    The employee in question is Highly Compensated but not Key, and he's in one of those 0% accrual groups.

    Who out here thinks he counts as a participant in the DB plan, for purposes of needing to get a 5% top heavy minimum in the DC plan (the plan where the top heavy is taken care of for all)? Versus who'd think he's not really a participant in the DB and can get by with just 3% in the DC....

    I wish the document had excluded these employees in the eligibility section, where it would be much clearer that they're definitely not "in" the DB plan. But that's not what I've got.

    Thanks...

    --bri

    (insert witty signature here....)


    New Plan, no assets

    Chey1999
    By Chey1999,

    Hi

    Does a new plan that had no assets need to file a 5500 S/F. For example, a 401(k) setup from 12/1 - 12/31/14 but nobody contribute during this period.


    spinoff

    52626
    By 52626,

    company A sold a portion of the entity to an unrelated company, this will not be a controlled group. the new company will keep the EIN and name. The only difference is the ownership.

    1. Is there a time frame when the new company must transfer assets to their plan ( current the new employer does not have a plan)

    2. can't the new company be a participating employer - Multiple Employer Plan

    3. Can the 18 month transitional rule be used in this case, giving the new employer time to set up a plan and transfer the assets??

    thanks


    Asset Purchase with owner continuing 401k

    perkinsran
    By perkinsran,

    Company A is acquired by Company B on 3/27. Company B wants to establish a new 401k plan and merge Co A asset into the new plan. Since it will take about 60 days to get new plan operational, can Co B become the sponsor of Co A plan in the meantime? My concern is the employees no longer work for company A on 3/28.


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