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Hello Everyone, We have a group that inadvertently formed a MEWA a few years ago and never filed the Form M1. They are debating to file them late now. Has anyone had any experience in doing this? Has anyone heard of group paying the very high penalty for not filing: $1992 per day late? Any advice would be greatly welcomed. Many thanks!

I really appreciate your input. Many thanks for taking the time to respond.

A very large PEO that files as a DFE - GIA does not provide the SAR to those who are participating. The participating employers are concerned of being out of compliance for the Plan participants. Has anyone had a remedy such creating their own SAR even though they did not prepare the 5500 or have the Schedule As from the carriers? Has anyone heard of any consequences for the participating employers? Many thanks for your assistance.

Hello, We have a group that is a MEWA and has 15 employer contribute. They are not under a trust. Is 4T to be used under 8b? It has over 10 employers but when I read up on its definition: 10 or more employer plan under Code section 419A(f)(6) and then read on 419, 419A and 419A(f)(6), it talks about a funded plan. However when I called the Efast Customer Service and the Office of Chief Accountant they did not know. They referred me to the Office of Regulations and Interpretations. This office does not call back consistently. Does anyone have any insight to help? Many thanks

Hi Everyone, I have an update for you. I spoke to the Office of Regulations and Interpretations of the DOL. They model notice has the Paperwork Reduction Act because this information needs to be seen by the Plan Sponsor/ the Employer. However it does not need to be in place for the participants. The employer can remove if they choose.

Hello. The DOL template for the SAR for welfare and pension plans includes the two-paragraph blurb on the Paperwork Reduction Act. However, in another location on the DOL website, there is instruction not to include the blurb. I called the DOL Office of the Chief Accountant to confirm which way to approach and they have to do research. Does anyone have advice on which way to approach? Many thanks!

I thank you greatly. And yes you are correct. This is for health and welfare plans that are unfunded. I am beside myself because I was told that they are to file a Schedule C for indirect compensation if over $100 but I have not found any back up to support this position. Thanks again for your feedback.

Hello Everyone, I have been informed that the Schedule C can be used for a large plan that is not under a trust if there are non-monetary funds/commissions to a broker of a $100 or more. I have always felt a Schedule C can only be used for a funded/trust filing. What are your thoughts? Is there any official written instructions on this? Many thanks!

I thank you greatly. Some day the DOL will write the instructions with specifics.

We are facing a debate: for a final Form 5500 report there is agreement that on page two of the Form 5500 the end of the Plan year participant count is left as zero. However, some have a covered persons count with those enrolled at the end of the Plan year on a Schedule A. Others have said that this is incorrect; the Schedule A also is to list zero. Can anyone settle the debate?

Thanks so much!

Hello, I wondered if anyone may know - Is the Plan year in the Form 5500 and the Form M1 to match? The instructions in the Form M1 do not provide instruction on this. On page two the instructions note to use the same identifying information but do not classify if the Plan year is to be included in this case. Any insight would be valuable. Many thanks!

Many, many thanks. I greatly appreciate hearing your thoughts on this.

We have more and more clients from NY and MA for instance who want PFML reported in the Form 5500 for health and welfare. It is deemed as self-insured. We need to list the benefit code on page two. Would you suggest using 4Q and note list PFML? We assume to list PFML in the SAR as well. Any thoughts/feedback?

We have been told yes but when I looked, I could not find any details on the DOL Form M1 look up. Seems that the MEWA are considering themselves as Non-ERISA Plans. I cannot say for certain, but my guess is that they are considering themselves as funding mechanisms and not employers. I instructed the groups to seek the advice of an ERISA attorney. Conservatively I think that they need to file as single employers. I still question though since funds were sent, and the clients don't administer the plan.