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  1. I have a question about determination of 5% owners for purposes of RMD rules. Law firm partnership has a 401(k) profit sharing plan. Several partners have P.C.s that have adopted the plan as participating employers. The owner of one of these P.C.s has just attained age 70 1/2 in 2015. He owns less than 5% of the partnership by capital interest or profits, but of course own 100% of his P.C. For testing purposes, all of the employers of the plan are aggregated under 414(m). Does aggregation apply for determining 5% owners for 401(a)(9) purposes? 5% owners are defined as under the top heavy rules, and aggregation applies for top heavy, but does that mean aggregation applies and only those who own 5% of the partnership are treated as 5% owners for RMD purposes? Put another way, is this partner's first distribution calendar year 2015 or will it be deferred until the calendar year in which he retires?
  2. Active Participant will attain 70 1/2 in 2014. He currently owns more than 5% of profits interest, but he will reduce his ownership by 12/31/13 to not more than 5%. Plan Year = Calendar Year. No RMD for 2014 if he continues working. Suppose in 2015 he continues working, but increases ownership to greater than 5%? Literal reading of 1.401(a)(9)-2 Q&A 2© says no required minimum distribution as long as he continues to work because the ownership test is done in the year of attaining 70 1/2. "© For purposes of section 401(a)(9), a 5-percent owner is an employee who is a 5-percent owner (as defined in section 416) with respect to the plan year ending in the calendar year in which the employee attains age 70 1/2. " Agree that if he isn't a 5% owner in 2014, becoming a 5% owner later won't matter for RMD purposes?
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