Guest Richard Scheer Posted June 29, 2001 Posted June 29, 2001 DB Plan has NRA of age 60 and 5th anniversary Participant enters the Plan on 7/1/94 DOB is 9/15/41 Vesting service is 1000 hours benefit service is 1/4 year for 175 hours 175 hours is needed to avoid a break in service Participant never worked 1000 hours in any Plan Year worked 200 hours in 2000 has not worked during 2001 I know that if this participant was still active on 9/15/01 he would be 100% vested and his NRD would be 10/1/01. What determines if he is still active on 9/15/01? Does he have to have 175 hours in 2001 to earn credit and avoid a break or does he just have to working on 9/15/01?
david rigby Posted June 29, 2001 Posted June 29, 2001 If the employee never worked 1000 hours in any plan year, is it possible that this employee never became a participant? If a participant, it looks to me like 100% vesting at NRA = 9/15/2001. The condition required for this would be "is he still an employee?" What have I missed? I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Guest Richard Scheer Posted July 2, 2001 Posted July 2, 2001 this is a multiemployer plan -- participation is immediate when a contribution is required to be made. question is what determines active participation at 5th anniv -- does employee have to be working on 9/15/01 or does he just have to earn 175 hours during 2001. As of the current date, he has no hours in 2001. Does he just have to work 1 hour after 9/15/01, or must he earn 175 hours in 2001?
david rigby Posted July 2, 2001 Posted July 2, 2001 I think that the terms of the plan would govern this, but it seems likely that the person must be an employee as of the potential vesting date. If the person has no hours, that might imply not an employee, but what controls the employer-employee relationship will usually be defined outside the plan. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
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