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I was under the impression that the IRS was supposed to have come out with a new Form 5310 earlier this year, but the old form is still on their website. Are you supposed to still use the old form at this point? Is a new 5310 supposed to be released soon? Thanks.

BTH

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Last time I checked there was still not a finalized new 5310. Also note that when you file the 5310 you need to file the OLD Schedule Q.

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The instructions for Sch Q seem to indicate that the form is optional when filing a 5310 for a plan termination. This thread seems to imply that it is required. Please comment. Is is optional?

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The new Schedule Q was designed to go with the new 5310. However, there is no new 5310.

On the new 5300 coverage information (while optional) has been "switched" from the Schedule Q to the 5300 itself.

The new 5310, when issued, will contain mandatory quesitons on minimum coverage requirements and the nondiscriminatory amounts requirement. At that time Scheule Q will become optional to cover a determination that not addressed by Form 5310 itself (such as benefits rights and features).

However, it is my understanding that 410(B) coverage and 401(a)(4) non-discrimnatory amounts (or a safe harbor) must be demonstrated with a 5310. Threefore until such a time as they revise the form it is my understanding that you should ignore the new Schedule Q for a 5310 filing and use the old Schedule Q.

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Do you know where I can get an old Schedule Q?- electronic format is best. The one posted on the IRS website appears to be the revised version?

Thanks for the response.

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The IRS has this site http://www.irs.gov/forms_pubs/formpub92.html for prior forms, althought there is no guarantee you will be able to find your specific form.

I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.

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