LIBOR Posted June 10, 2003 Posted June 10, 2003 Situation : 204(h) notices are sent timely last December (12/13) announcing a proposed plan termination effective 12/31/2002 but the plan is not amended to freeze accruals as of 12/31/31; the 204(h) is also used as the 60 day NOIT with a proposed termination date of 2/15/2003; a Board resolution is also signed on 12/13/2002 resolving to terminate the plan effective 12/31/2002. The plan is insufficient & I contend that a 1/1/03 valuation needs to be performed w/ costs pro-rated for the period from 1/1 to 2/15. The consultant for the termination work asserts that the 204(h) and the Board resolution are sufficient to end my company's work as of 12/31/2002. Who is right ??
mwyatt Posted June 10, 2003 Posted June 10, 2003 I'm assuming that the 12/31/2001 reference should be 12/31/2002. Also assuming (since you reference NOIT) that this wasn't provided until 12/15/2002, implying that your plan is subject to PBGC coverage. Hence the earliest plan termination date that you could use (and that the PBGC would accept) would be your 2/15/2003 date. So your plan termination date would have to be 2/15/2003 and you would have to do a 1/1/2003 valuation. Only way that the 12/31/2002 plan term date could be valid (again assuming that this plan is subject to PBGC coverage) is if the 60-day notice was timely given to participants by the end of October 2002.
LIBOR Posted June 10, 2003 Author Posted June 10, 2003 Yes, my typing error ; instead of 12/31/31 on the 3rd line it should be 12/31/2002. If they were sufficient, we'd probably get a funding pass so to speak per Section 4 of Rev. Proc. 2000-40. thanks for the reply !!!
LIBOR Posted June 11, 2003 Author Posted June 11, 2003 I agree w/ mwyatt also; but I've been going from memory ; mwyatt, would you happen to have any cite(s) or even a GreyBook question or an EA meeting outline that would additionally support our common contention regarding the need for a 1/1/2003 valuation given the fact pattern ? Thanks again !!!
Blinky the 3-eyed Fish Posted June 11, 2003 Posted June 11, 2003 See the PBGC rules regarding standard terminations that will confirm when the termination date is allowed www.pbgc.gov. Also, see Rev Rul. 79-237 to spell out for how long the funding standard account must be maintained. "What's in the big salad?" "Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."
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