katieinny Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 A plan is top heavy for the first time in 2002 and the employer is refusing to make the required contribution. In fact, he wants to terminate the plan and be done with it. I understand that failure to make the top heavy contribution is a disqualifying event, but what sanctions could be employer be facing?
WDIK Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 Just out of curiosity, is this a 401(k) plan with an employer match? ...but then again, What Do I Know?
katieinny Posted December 8, 2003 Author Posted December 8, 2003 I haven't met with the employer yet and haven't seen the document. The top heavy issue is the only thing I've been given any information about so far. I'm going to tell him that not making the top heavy contribution is a disqualifying event which means that rollovers would be disallowed, resulting in taxable income to everybody. But are there any sanctions directly to the employer?
AndyH Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 To start with, contributions that were deducted by the emploer would be disallowed.
katieinny Posted December 8, 2003 Author Posted December 8, 2003 Yes, deductions would be lost. But I don't find anything that says the employer would face some kind of excise tax. For example, if it were a $500,000 plan and there's a 10% penalty to the employer if the plan were to be disqualified, he'd be paying a $50,000 fine. Other than the loss of deductions and the taxability of all distributions, there doesn't seem to be any other penalty imposed. Is that correct?
david rigby Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 But that does not mean that all prior deductions would be disallowed. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Everett Moreland Posted December 9, 2003 Posted December 9, 2003 It seems from your question that the employer is contractually obligated to make the top-heavy contribution. It probably would be easier to make the contribution than to deal with ERISA suits to force the contribution and claims against the employer for any tax benefits lost by participants.
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