flosfur Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 Employer X with rank & file employees had a DB plan. Employer sold the business to Y on November 7, 2003, say, and also terminated the DB plan effective Nov 7, 03. Plan assets will be distributed to the participants asap. The rank and file employees have continued working with Y. Y now wants to adopt a DB plan. Is the new DB plan required to recognize service for vesting/eligibility etc prior to the business purchase date?
Mike Preston Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 Interesting issue. I assume it was a stock sale. If so, Y is really a continuation of X, right? Under what theory could the service with the same corporation be excluded? If it wasn't a stock sale, then it is a much closer call. Having everything happen on the same day is a bit unfortunate. But as long as Y didn't sponsor X's plan, I would think excluding service would be the normal thing and including it would require special language in the plan.
flosfur Posted January 28, 2004 Author Posted January 28, 2004 I never understood the distinction between a Stock sale & an Assets sale. I better read up on it. Be as it may... It is a medical practice - Doctor X sold the practice to Doctor Y. X is no longer there and Y never worked in this practice before buying it. Y did not sponsor the DB plan maintained by X. I presume this is both a Stock & Assets sale, whatever that implies !?
david rigby Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 Likely this has happened before, and the question has already been answered. (Unfortunately, I'm not sure where to look for confirmation.) I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
flosfur Posted January 28, 2004 Author Posted January 28, 2004 I searched using both "Predecessor Employer" & "Successor Employer" but nothing came out. Without the quotes, I get millions of hits for the Employer!
david rigby Posted January 29, 2004 Posted January 29, 2004 Searched where? My first guess would be PLRs. Perhaps DOL regs? I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
mbozek Posted January 29, 2004 Posted January 29, 2004 Why not call counsel for Y and ask what the terms of the sale were- Asset or stock. I am assuming that the sold practice was incorporated. Also the purchase agreement should have some reference to the service credit for the acquired employees, assuming that it is well drafted so why not review it. No one can give you an answer without reviewing the purchase documents. There may be a problem if the med practice was unincorporated. mjb
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