Guest SPOT Posted January 29, 2004 Posted January 29, 2004 I am comparing two formulas that calculate EBARs (I'm a beginner). 1. ERCTBN * 1.085^(NRA-AA)/95.382/AVG Monthly compensation 2. ERCTBN * 1.085^(NRA-AA)/7.9486/ANNUAL Compensation I'm using the UP-84 mortality table and 8.5% interest. My understanding is that the APR of 95.382 in formula #1 = 7.9486 multiplied by 12. I'm assuming the 7.9486 is a monthly annuity rate and multiplying it by 12 converts it to an annual rate. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The software program that uses the first formula #1 takes into account compensation from plan entry for a mid-year entrant if I want it to. For instance, if an employee enters the plan 7/1/2003 and has compensation from 7/1/2003-12/31/2003 for 120,000, the system calculated the avg monthly compensation to be 20000. The second formula is used in a spreadsheet. If I want to use full year compensation for everyone in the plan, then I see no problem. If I want to use compensation from plan entry, I don't think the formula can handle that. If I enter compensation from plan entry as Annual Compensation, then the formula assumes the compensation I input was for a 12 period. Does this make sense? Can anyone tell me how to adjust the formula for mid-year entrants? Would I prorate the annuity factor? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Mike Preston Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 I think putting in the compensation earned while a participant in the second formula is exactly what you want, isn't it?
Guest SPOT Posted February 4, 2004 Posted February 4, 2004 I'm not sure if the factor is correct when the compensation I input is only for a portion of the year. I'm getting extremely high EBARs when I enter compensation from plan entry for the second formula.
Mike Preston Posted February 4, 2004 Posted February 4, 2004 If by extremely high you mean about twice as much as you would expect if you used full year compensation, I agree with your calculations.
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now