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I've a beginning of the year DB plan. The termination date was 4/30/04. Originally we planned on terminating the plan as of 12/31/03, but it was held up.

On 1/1/2003, the required contribution was, lets say, $60,000. The unfunded liability was, lets say, $200,000. Around 11/30/2003, the client put into the plan $200,000 to fully fund the plan so that the termination process could begin. Well, since we couldn't terminate during that year, how do I report the excess contribution that was made during the 2003 year?

I'm sure I didn't state all the facts, so I'll be ready for some questions.

Thanks ahead of time,

Andrew

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I have to assume that this plan is covered by the PBGC and the $200,000 was an amount to satisfy the shortage in plan liabilities versus assets. Why the $200,000 was put in in 11/03 is beyond me. It was not necessary (and one could argue not appropriate) to put it in then "so that the termination process could begin".

Now I would ask why is the $200,000 necessarily above the maximum deductible limit? Have you tried looking at the unfunded current liability run using the lowest available interest rate (4.98% for 2003)?

"What's in the big salad?"

"Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."

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Are we assuming the sponsor's fiscal year is the same as the PY?

I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.

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