JAY21 Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 Reading examples of what constitutes UBIT makes my head spin. Can anyone opine whether ALL debt-financed property (within a qualified plan) that generates rental income constitues UBIT ? or is it somewhat dependent upon how the debt (loan) is structured ?
Kirk Maldonado Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 There are a lot of complex rules that govern UBTI, particularly where real estate is involved. This area doesn't lend itself well to blanket statements; any answers should be very fact-specific. Kirk Maldonado
Lori Friedman Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 You might find it helpful to read the regulations at Reg. Sec. 1.514(b)-1. Lori Friedman
JAY21 Posted September 1, 2004 Author Posted September 1, 2004 Kirk, how about a response (if you know) of "yes" there are some scenarios that debt-financed property with rental income "might" not trigger UBIT, or "no" UBIT is always triggered in this situation. That's a general call but presumably is not putting anyone on the hook too much. I just want to know whether I need to spend more time on fact specific scenarios or if I can just blanket state to client "it can't be done under any circumstances whatsoever without triggering UBIT".
Lori Friedman Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 Jay21, You absolutely don't want to tell a client that ALL debt-financed rental income will trigger UBIT. Debt-financed rental income should certainly raise a UBIT flag and cause further investigation, but you shouldn't automatically conclude that a debt-financed activity will be taxable. You really do need to get more information from your client. Here's an example. A 401(a) trust owns a debt-financed office building. The qualified plan uses 90% of the building for its own administrative activities, and it rents the remaining 10% to unrelated, commercial tenants. Because substantially all of the building is used to perform exempt functions (>85%), the entire asset is excepted from treatment as debt-financed property. [Reg. Sec. 1.514(b)-1(b)(1)(ii)] Lori Friedman
JAY21 Posted September 1, 2004 Author Posted September 1, 2004 Thanks Lori. I just needed to know that more time and research is warranted and "could" prove fruitful. Thanks for the good example.
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