Guest saeissler Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 If a DB plan has no active participants and uses the individual aggregate funding method is it true that there will be no minimum funding required, because there is no normal cost? I am taking over a plan in this situation that has a full funding limit of $60,000 but no required minimum contribution. The only participant is a terminated participant who is the owner.
david rigby Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Don't you first have to determine if the IA method is a reasonable funding method for a plan with no active participants? As discussed in several prior threads, the IRS is of the opinion that it is not. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
mwyatt Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 You may also want to consider that in the eyes of the IRS, an "owner" in a one-person plan can never "terminate".
david rigby Posted July 9, 2005 Posted July 9, 2005 Some prior discussion on this topic can be found here: http://benefitslink.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=22461 http://benefitslink.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=22024 http://benefitslink.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=23970 http://benefitslink.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=19730 Even if (in the opinon of the IRS) the owner in a one-person plan cannot "terminate", that still leaves a frozen plan. As discussed in the links above, the IRS expects that the method will be changed to UC in such case. That the actuary must then track experience gains/losses each year after that is merely the (administrative) price to pay. As always, maximize your contribution range, so that a larger deductible contribution will be possible (assuming the cash is available). I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
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