Blinky the 3-eyed Fish Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 An April year-end plan terminates on 4/1/2005. Come 10/1/2005, the plan sponsor decides to call off the termination and proceed merrily along with the plan. Being this termination recission is past the 412©(8) deadline do I: a) continue to prorate the NC and amortization bases by 11/12 or; b) treat the plan as not terminated and not prorate them? I can't say I have ever had this happen before. However, I am leaning toward the latter option as Rev. Rul. 79-237 describes a plan that is terminating and this one is not, well at least not now. "What's in the big salad?" "Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."
Effen Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Does anyone other than you, the PA and the attorney know about the plan's termination? The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
JAY21 Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 I can't point to anything more definite, but I like option B as well (terminate the plan but not pro-rate). I'd almost think you'd have to file an amended return later if you didn't. Also, I'm not sure termination resolutions are amendments to the plan per se, so I'm not sure 412©(8) necessarily applies to their revokation, although I realize the plan may have concurrently been frozen which would be an amendment. I'm still voting for plan B.
Blinky the 3-eyed Fish Posted October 7, 2005 Author Posted October 7, 2005 Effen, just me, the client and the CPA. Jay, we are thinking the same. "What's in the big salad?" "Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."
david rigby Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 I agree. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
AndyH Posted October 10, 2005 Posted October 10, 2005 Not that you need another voice but the plan did not terminate. Period. IMHO.
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