J2D2 Posted November 17, 2005 Posted November 17, 2005 This is one of those "I know there's something out there, but can't find it" issues. Can a self-insured medical plan cover a retired member of the board of directors (assume he/she was never an employee)? Seems it should be OK, assuming the plan meets the non-discrimination rules, but I just can't find anything addressing this issue, so far. Thanks.
J2D2 Posted November 18, 2005 Author Posted November 18, 2005 I'd like to bump and twist this one in hopes of getting some traffic. Let's change slightly. Can an employer's self-insured health plan cover non-employee members of its board of directors?
JanetM Posted November 18, 2005 Posted November 18, 2005 Have a couple thoughts, but am not an expert in this area. Think it is section 105 that deals with discrimination in self insured plans. That section refers to employees so I don't think it applies to the first situation. Can you set up non qual plan for these retired directors? You would have to impute the income to them, but you could gross it up. The only downside is your stop loss carrier may not cover this person or group. JanetM CPA, MBA
Kirk Maldonado Posted November 20, 2005 Posted November 20, 2005 J2D2: Are you assuing that the receipt of the benefits will be taxable or tax-free? Kirk Maldonado
J2D2 Posted November 21, 2005 Author Posted November 21, 2005 Kirk, The goal would be to provide benefits with the same tax effects as provided to employees, eg cost of coverage and benefits excludable from income.
Guest AVH@MLS Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 A few months ago I researched this issue, as we too wanted to add a non-employee board member to our self-insured plan. While passing the non-discrimination test seemed the primary concern, another thing to consider is that ERISA applies to employees only. As I understood it, if we added the board member, we would forego ERISA protection for that board member.
Kirk Maldonado Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 J2D2: You said that was your goal, what did your research reveal about whether that result was feasible? Kirk Maldonado
Guest b2kates Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 we have always had the concern that providing health insurance to a non-employee in a self insured plan may be considered the unlicensed sale of insurance by the state dept of insurance.
Kirk Maldonado Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 b2kates: Is there an issue as to whether you have created a MEWA by covering that individual? (I honestly don't know the answer to that question.) Kirk Maldonado
Guest b2kates Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 Quite possibly, on one particular client that was our conclusion,in concert with outside counsel and since it was in NJ it is not easy to request a no action from the state dept of insurance.
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