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My firm has taken over a DB plan which i understand is a change in funding method in itself. We were able to match within less than 10 percent the prior actuary's 2004 valuation numbers. Is a filing for approval necessary or an attachement to the 2005 Schedule B when prepared?? Thanks.

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You need to read Rev. Proc. 2000-40. I believe it is only pre-approved if the change in normal cost and accrued liability is less than 5%.

I think a lot depends on the size of the plan, but 10% is pretty high. You may want to contact the prior actuary and discuss potential reasons for the difference.

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I also would be concerned with a variation of 10%. To be fair, you said "less than 10%", but did not elaborate. Assuming you have a copy of the plan document to follow, you probably have two primary things to review for closer matching: (1) data, and (2) assumptions. It would not surprise me if its both.

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Thanks for the responses, I'm actually within 4.7% on the NC and 7% on the Accrued Liab. I will look closer at the assumptions and the Rev Proc. Thanks again.

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Probably obvious, but one way to help narrow this down, at least with respect to the AL, is match the inactive participants first.

BTW, if FAS87 is applicable, I suggest you spend some time trying to match these values as well.

I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.

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