PMC Posted January 20, 2006 Posted January 20, 2006 Notice 2005-95 extends the time by which certain amendments need to be signed depending on whether the amendment is a discretionary one or one due to correct a disqualifying provision. The Automatic Rollover/ Mandatory Cash-Out amendment is one needed to correct a disqualifying provision and the time to sign the amendment has been extended for certain plans. Question - if the plan had a $5000 cash-out threshold and has decided to lower that threshold to $1000 via the Automatic Rollover amendment, does the fact that the cash-out level has been reduced to $1000 constitute a "discretionary" amendment on behalf of the employer and should have been signed under the time frame disregarding the extension afforded by 2005-95?
Blinky the 3-eyed Fish Posted January 20, 2006 Posted January 20, 2006 It's safe to say that any of the options to comply with 401(a)(31)(B), one of which is to lower the cash out limit to $1,000, meets the requirements of Notice 2005-5 (I think that's the right cite) and is not a discretionary amendment. "What's in the big salad?" "Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."
Sully Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Based on the above posts, can someone please confirm the following: A calendar year C-corp employer with a calendar year plan would have until 3/15/06 (plus extensions) to adopt the automatic rollover amendment. Thank you in advance.
E as in ERISA Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 I think that most would interpret it that way. Here is the news flash that indicates that reducing to $1,000 is part of the scheme http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/epnf_021605.pdf Notice 2005-95 provides the clarification regarding due date for return. I don't think that they are perfectly synchronized so some might debate it. But most would probably consider them close enough.
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