Looking for this annuity table

[jkharvey]

Would anyone happen to have it or help me find it?

[david rigby]

I never heard of that. It was not in the list of tables we studied 25+ years ago for (very old) Part 5 of the SOA exams. I'm suspicious about the year; very unlikely that a table was issued that year, but it could be referring to a later table based on someone born in 1900.

Try: http://library.soa.org:8080/xtbml/jsp/index.jsp

Also try a google search.

[jkharvey]

Thanks, I searched those tables and not there. I have tried to google it and nothing comes of it. It is the strangest thing. We have a target benefit plan (not written by us) that actually has this plan defined in the language as the table being used to calculate the benefit.

[Larry M]

Try calling someone at Met Life. If has a vast library of tables.

[SoCalActuary]

Does the target plan document actually show the APR factors?

Can you do some reverse engineering on the table to find the underlying qx values?

I suspect it was simply mis-labeled. But it might be helpful to ask the firm that created the document.

[Guest DBtech]

Would anyone happen to have it or help me find it?

Why not try Books.Google.com?

[Guest Doug Goelz]

You can try this table that I encountered years ago. It was labled only as the Progressive Mortality Table.

Attached are the male and female mortality rates for ages 15-110 (males listed first):

PROGRESS.TXT

[jkharvey]

I tried the factors in the download that Doug provided. These aren't producing the APR that I hve in the prior document. Does anyone know how i can convert these APRs into the factors I need to enter into the Relius admin annuity table?

[SoCalActuary]

You might ask the actuary you use. Or you could post the table here and ask for help.

[jkharvey]

Thanks. We have sent the APR table to the actuary. I was kind of hoping that this was a relatively simple computation...lol I'm sure the actuary will convince me other wise.

[AndyH]

jk, if you have the APR in the document, why do you need anything else? Is the issue a difficulty creating a table in Relius based upon APR(s) that are in your document? How many APRs do you think are relevant to the calculations?

[david rigby]

Just what is this APR being used for?

Is this an ERISA plan?

[jkharvey]

The issue is getting this information set up in Relius as a new annuity table. The entry for a new table requires the factors and not just the APR (unless I'm missing something). This is a Target Benefit Plan and this Annuity table is used to compute the target benefit. I think I can manually make the computations now that I have the APR, but I would really rather avoid that. I think there is just too much chance for error.