Guest tas1 Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 With March 15th behind us, we are focusing intensely on the new statement requirements. I received the following email from John Hancock which seems to imply that plans on these types of platforms will not have to address the vesting requirement UNTIL 02/14/08. Is this correct? - certainly would be wonderful news! And/or, is anyone doing a notice, based on DOL 2006-3, explaining that this info will come at a later date? We've got a variety of platforms, LOTS of individual brokerage accts (yikes!) and a few pooled, self-directed plans (most doing quarterlys anyway so NBD). Our brokerage account clients are not going to pay for quarterly vals and a separate statement stating one's vested % is really useless when all money types are comingled in one account. I would really appreciate thoughts about this item from JH and how others are dealing with this issue. Thank you!! From a John Hancock email: "The PPA requires that a “quarterly benefit statement include the total benefits accrued, the vested benefit or the earliest date when a participant will be vested.†In the case of a plan with a calendar plan year, if the vesting information is to be made available on a quarterly benefit statement, the information will have to appear on the statement for the quarter ending March 31, 2007. The DOL requires the plan to provide a statement to their participants 45 days after quarter end. As an alternative, the plan may provide the vesting information in a separate annual statement that enables a participant to determine their vested benefit. If the annual statement method is used, these plans will have until February 14, 2008 (i.e., 45 days after December 31, 2007) to deliver the vesting information to their participants. For 2007, John Hancock will be supporting the annual statement option. We understand that some of you already provide vesting statements to plan sponsors and participants and may choose to continue to do so. For those who are not, if you are looking to John Hancock for assistance, we will be collecting vesting data from you and providing annual vesting statements to plan sponsors to distribute to participants. Additional details on the process to provide us the vesting data will follow."
Jim Chad Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 The mailing from Ameriprise and the mailing from Corbel both matche my understanding. If the Participant can direct investments, we have 45 days after March 31, 2007 for a calendar year Plan.
Guest tas1 Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 The mailing from Ameriprise and the mailing from Corbel both matche my understanding. If the Participant can direct investments, we have 45 days after March 31, 2007 for a calendar year Plan. I emailed John Hancock and they stand by their opinion that vesting can be supplied on one separate annual notice. AND, the email response they sent me (see below) includes their supporting response from TAGData. Any thoughts or opinions on this would be greatly appreciated. It would be welcome news but we just haven't heard this from anyone else... and the clock is ticking! Here's the response I got from JH (sorry for all of the funky characters) - EMAIL FROM JOHN HANCOCK: "We have reviewed the PPA requirements and specifically,  DOL FAB 2006-03. Our interpretation is that the vesting requirement can be met in one of two ways. It can be reported on the quarterly participant statements OR it can be reported on a separate notice on an annual basis. Our approach will be to create a separate document on an annual basis. I also went to TAG to get their opinion and they agree with our interpretation. Here is the response that I received. "I don't interpret FAB 2006-03 to require vesting information on the first  quarterly statement.  The Act itself requires vesting to be included on  the participant statement (or otherwise provided to the participant) only  once annually, not on each quarter's statement. The Technical Explanation  to PPA 2006 provides the following:  "With respect to information on vested benefits, the Secretary of Labor  is required to provide that the requirements are met if, at least  annually, the plan:  (1) updates the information on vested benefits that is provided in the  benefit statement; or  (2) provides in a separate statement information as is necessary to  enable participants and beneficiaries to determine their vested  benefits"." xxx (I xxx'd the name because I wasn't sure if it was proper etiquette to share it) AVP, TPA Services John Hancock Retirement Plan Services 601 Congress Street, 11- 049 Boston, MA 02210-2805" 617-663-2691
Bird Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 I agree (with John Hancock) that vesting info can be provided once per year, and that the first time it would be necessary to do so would be by 2/15/08 for 2007. But vesting is the only thing that can be done once a year and it's not clear to me if John Hancock will be covering all the other yada-yada in their statements, which might mean that some sort of supplementary quarterly statement will be required. Ed Snyder
Bird Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 I just got and read their e-mail and I think they're handling it appropriately wrt both vesting and the other requirements; they're modifying their statements to include investment principles, reference to DOL website, limitations on exchanges, etc. They are understandably NOT doing anything about permitted disparity or floor-offset commentary. One thing that caught my eye is that if use "multiple documents" (i.e. we issue a separate statement on permitted disparity), that's ok, but we're supposed to notify the participants BEFORE they get the quarterly statement. Which means we're under a little more time pressure than I originally thought to get out our "supplementary" statements or whatever you want to call them. Ed Snyder
austin3515 Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 Bird, I'm looking at FAB 2006-3 "Form of Furnishing Statements" paragraph 3, and the only requirement I'm seeing regarding the multiple source notification is that it has to be "furnished in advance of the date on which a plan is required to furnisht the first pension benefit statement..." I'm interpretting that to mean we have until 5/15/07. Also, I'm incorporating the "multiple sources" language into my supplemental notice. Any thoughts on that? Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA
blue Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 Read the Sunguard Technical Update - Quarterly Benefit Statements issued March 1, 2007 (www.relius.net/news/technicalupdates.asp?ID=35&T=P) What you are proposing appears to be in line with the examples they have outlined as to the deadline for the supplemental notice (May 15, 2007). They do, however, they state the "one-time" notice explaining multiple documents must be provided in advance of May 15, 2007.
Bird Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 austin3515, I agree with you that the FAB doesn't say the supplemental notice has to be given before the "regular" benefit statement. John Hancock said that but I see nothing to support it. Ed Snyder
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