Guest MC2 Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Is it possible to convert a cash balance plan to a 401(k) plan?
SoCalActuary Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 No. A defined benefit plan must be terminated with all its attendant duties. Cash balance is just a formula.
Guest MC2 Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 That's what I thought, I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing anything. Thanks so much!
Blinky the 3-eyed Fish Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Actually I believe the letter of the law allows you to convert a DB into a DC plan. However, with the 411(d)(6) issue of perserving DB benefits in a DC environment, it makes absolutely no sense. It is much better to terminate the DB and start a new DC plan. "What's in the big salad?" "Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."
david rigby Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Blinky is correct about the "letter of the law". However, that does not mean it is better to terminate; it might be better to freeze the DB plan; we don't know all the facts. It is usually best to have all facts on the table when making plan design decisions. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
SoCalActuary Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 If the intent is to start new accruals only under the 401k plan, then a DB freeze is fine. Then you get to charge for (pay for) two plans. If the intent is to migrate the funds from a guaranteed obligation of the employer subject to funding rules, then termination is effectively the intermediate step. The funds can then be transferred into the DC plan.
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