Archimage Posted May 10, 2007 Posted May 10, 2007 I have an employer that would like to establish a profit sharing plan and exclude all non-retiring employees. Basically they would like to only give contributions to employees that are retiring and have reached NRA. My initial thought is that this probably wouldn't be permitted as it may be seen to skirt the maximum age requirement of age 21. Any thoughts or other opinions?
J Simmons Posted May 10, 2007 Posted May 10, 2007 Is the maximum age 21 something like the "part-time" employee exclusion? That is, can you specify a higher age but you must nevertheless take into account all those age 21 or older in your nondiscrimination and minimum coverage testing? I would doubt that only benefiting retiring employees (since presumably on the higher end of the pay scale at the company) would pass those tests. It sounds more like a situation for a nonqualified plan than a qualified one. John Simmons johnsimmonslaw@gmail.com Note to Readers: For you, I'm a stranger posting on a bulletin board. Posts here should not be given the same weight as personalized advice from a professional who knows or can learn all the facts of your situation.
david rigby Posted May 10, 2007 Posted May 10, 2007 Pardon my idiocy, but what is a "non-retiring employee"? I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Archimage Posted May 10, 2007 Author Posted May 10, 2007 You mean that is not crystal clear? They are wanting to give a one time contribution to an employee in his final year of employment. Basically a non-retiring employee would be one that is not age 65 and not retiring.
JanetM Posted May 10, 2007 Posted May 10, 2007 Why make it complicated. Just call it a bonus or something. If it is non qual plan then you have 409A issues. I don't see what motivates this. JanetM CPA, MBA
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