mming Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Maybe I'm wrong but it looks like one of those "can't find anything that prohibits this" kind of things . . . . . A 100% business owner employs, among others, his sister. Since she is not an officer nor an HCE, could the business set up a new comparability-style profit sharing plan where the sister can be isolated by herself in an allocation group (via her compensation level) and get 100% of the contribution (as long as it doesn't exceed $45K)? The owner, along with everyone else, would get nothing and he's OK with that since he's worked out a cash deal with his sister outside of the plan.
Mike Preston Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 I usually find that the life-partner plan is better still.
John Feldt ERPA CPC QPA Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 It looks okay, be sure to look at: the 415 limit and the 404 deduction limit and 410 coverage, such as: she is not an HCE (or if she is, they employ no NHCEs that could be eligible, etc)
Blinky the 3-eyed Fish Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Is she not going to be an HCE soon under this design? Let's say it's a 401(k) plan, so to get her to $45,000 in total, she needs $29,500 in employer contributions. Since she is the only one benefiting in the plan, she needs $118,000 in compensation so that the $29,500 is deductible by the employer. That makes her an HCE next year unless the top paid group somehow keeps her out. Of course you could give $10 to a lot of the other NHCE's, or whatever you feel comfortable with, to treat them as benefiting so you can use their compensation and not have to pay the sister so much. "What's in the big salad?" "Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."
Belgarath Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Good point! I wouldn't have thought of that initially. Heed the wisdom of the fish! That trinocular focus confers unusual powers of perspicacity.
AndyH Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 My binocular analysis is that the business owner has some issues with his sister.
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