J Simmons Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Situation: Co A is owned 100% by Z. More than 1/2 of Co A's business is providing management services to Co B owned 100% by Y. We have an affiliated service group. Co B sponsors a DB plan for Y, the sole employee of Co B. In determining if Z can waive participation without causing a discrimination testing problem, we need to determine if Z is a 'key employee' (since Z is not by earnings alone an HCE and we'd not want to have to make top-heavy minimum contributions for Z if he waives). The key employee question resolves into what ownership percentage is Z considered to have. The relative revenues of Co B to Co A are 10:1. So, in deciding if Z is a key employee with respect to the plan, how do we determine what percentage Z is considered as owning of the affiliated service group? Is it 100% ownership because Z owns 100% of Co A, one of the constituents of the affiliated service group? Is is 9.09% (1/11) based on relative revenues generated by the companies? Or is some other measure the appropriate one? John Simmons johnsimmonslaw@gmail.com Note to Readers: For you, I'm a stranger posting on a bulletin board. Posts here should not be given the same weight as personalized advice from a professional who knows or can learn all the facts of your situation.
Blinky the 3-eyed Fish Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 You fail 401(a)(26) if Z is not in the DB plan accruing meaningful benefits. Z is an HCE and key. He is a 100% owner. You don't water it down. "What's in the big salad?" "Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."
J Simmons Posted October 26, 2007 Author Posted October 26, 2007 Ouch. Back to the drawing board for a Plan B. Thanks Blinky. John Simmons johnsimmonslaw@gmail.com Note to Readers: For you, I'm a stranger posting on a bulletin board. Posts here should not be given the same weight as personalized advice from a professional who knows or can learn all the facts of your situation.
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