Guest tmills Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 As we know, if a plan passes the 1/3 rule, forfeitures are not included in the 415 test. However, it is not all forfeitures that can be ignored, according to 415©(6) it is only forfeitures of employer securities acquired with a 404(a)(9) loan that can be. 54.4975-11(d)(4) says no stock allocated from a suspense account (eg acquired with a loan) is forfeited before all other assets available for forfeiture are. Therefore, in order to accurately perform the 415 test and forfeit amounts from a participant's account, it is necessary to track the source of the shares, forfeit cash, other assets and non-loan shares first which are then included in the 415 test regardless of the 1/3 rule, then forfeit loan shares as needed. Only the loan share forfeitures are excluded from the 415 test and only if the 1/3 test is passed. Have I stated that correctly? If so, what a pain. As always, thanks for any comments.
RLL Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Your approach sounds correct to me. Note, however, that the exclusion of forfeitures under 415©(6) applies only in years when payments are being made on an ESOP loan (when deductions are claimed under 404(a)(9)) and that the exclusion is not available for an S corp ESOP.
Guest tmills Posted December 21, 2007 Posted December 21, 2007 Thanks RLL. At least we don't have to do any complicated procedures to ensure the tests are done right. Who comes up with this stuff?
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