Andy the Actuary Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 IRS proposed regs. issued 4/11/2008 referred to 1.430(f)-1© a number of times. For example: (3) Plan assets equal or exceed funding target. For any plan year in which the value of plan assets (as reduced to reflect the subtraction of certain funding balances as provided under §1.430(f)-1©, but not below zero) equals or exceeds the funding target of the plan for the plan year, the minimum required contribution for that plan year is equal to the target normal cost of the plan for the plan year reduced (but not below zero) by that excess. While I believe this means subtract credit balances (that's what the statute says), it would be helpful to be able to see this reference and this poor old soul can't find it. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
JanetM Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 Here's the fed register. fed_reg_15apr08.pdf JanetM CPA, MBA
WDIK Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 I may have missed it, but I don't think that the section in question appears in that document. (Though it refers to it several times.) ...but then again, What Do I Know?
SoCalActuary Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 Look at the August 2007 regulations, roughly page 60 of 133. Here's a cut&paste of the section. © Effect of balances on plan assets--(1) In general. In the case of any plan with a prefunding balance or a funding standard carryover balance, the amount of those balances must be subtracted from the value of plan assets for purposes of sections 430 and 436, except as provided in paragraphs ©(2), ©(3), and ©(4) of this section. (2) Subtraction of balances in determining new shortfall amortization base--(i) Prefunding balance. For purposes of determining whether a plan is exempt from the requirement to establish a new shortfall amortization base under section 430©(5), the amount of the prefunding balance is subtracted from the value of plan assets only if an election under paragraph (d) of this section to use the prefunding balance to offset the minimum required contribution is made for the plan year. (ii) Funding standard carryover balance. For purposes of determining whether a plan is exempt from the requirement to establish a new shortfall amortization base under section 430©(5), the funding standard carryover balance is not subtracted from the value of plan assets regardless of whether any portion of either the funding standard carryover balance or the prefunding balance is used to offset the minimum required contribution for the plan year under paragraph (d) of this section. (3) Special rule for certain binding agreements with PBGC. If there is in effect for a plan year a binding written agreement with the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC) which provides that all or a portion of the prefunding balance or funding standard carryover balance (or both balances) is not available to offset the minimum required contribution for a plan year, that specified amount is not subtracted from the value of plan assets for purposes of determining the funding shortfall under section 430©(4). ... (more follows)
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