Dougsbpc Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 Suppose you have a 401(k) plan with salary deferrals and profit sharing. Each year the employer makes a 15% P/S contribution and it is allocated comp / comp. This year they fail the ADP Test. The document allows them to carve the amount necessary to pass the ADP test by classifying that amount as a QNEC. Suppose 4% of the 15% becomes a QNEC for the two NHCE's. Does that then require us to cross-test? Does the fact that the 4% QNEC is used for ADP testing then mean only 11% is considered a "Nonelective Contribution" and then subject them to cross-testing?
Blinky the 3-eyed Fish Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 First, I assume you are following your document. Second, because (a)(4) must be passed both with and without the QNEC, you do have a non-safe harbor allocation without the QNEC and must run the general test. "What's in the big salad?" "Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."
Tom Poje Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 but you do not have only 11% nonelective. the 4% QNEC is still a 'non elective', but as the wise fish said, you still have 2 tests to run - one with and one without, though of course the test including all nonelectives would pass
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