ombskid Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Sole practitioner is joining large medical group and bringing one employee. Group wants to amend plan to include service with the sole practitioner, making one doc plus one employee immediately eligible in the large group's plan. Any problems?
JanetM Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Done all the time for vesting purposes. Doesn't cost anything - why not? JanetM CPA, MBA
david rigby Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Doesn't cost anything - why not? There is no free lunch. It might have a cost. But probably not much. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
masteff Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 The cost of immediate eligiblity from bridged service is immediate match and profit share, to the extent the plan offers them. Kurt Vonnegut: 'To be is to do'-Socrates 'To do is to be'-Jean-Paul Sartre 'Do be do be do'-Frank Sinatra
JanetM Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 The dollar cost of match/profit sharing is usually recouped by the goodwill, lower turnover, and happy workforce after a merger/acquisition. My employer buys and sells 3 or 4 companies a year. One acquisition we did that didn't offer credit for prior service was a disaster. Voluntary turnover went from 5% to near 60%. So instead of being profitable from day one for small expense, the company struggled for 2 years. JanetM CPA, MBA
masteff Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Thanks for adding that Janet... I had the thought but failed to express it that a company may have very valid reasons from a compensation perspective to provide bridged service. The same can apply to vacation and, in some companies, service awards. Kurt Vonnegut: 'To be is to do'-Socrates 'To do is to be'-Jean-Paul Sartre 'Do be do be do'-Frank Sinatra
ombskid Posted August 8, 2008 Author Posted August 8, 2008 Thanks for the responses. Could an amendment like that work if only the sole practitioner came - no ee's. In other words, can such an amendment only benefit HCE's?
JanetM Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 If only one person it could. But if you are going to give Dr. service credit and there is an employee at his practice I say you can't. JanetM CPA, MBA
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