Bird Posted October 8, 2008 Posted October 8, 2008 We've been blissfully ignorant of non-resident alien issues for the most part, but have to deal with it now. The plan is pretty clear that non-resident aliens are excluded from participation if their only income is from non-US sources, or some such language; I don't have it handy. I have a US company that has an employee working here on a Visa, and they noted that he is excluded because he's a non-resident alien. I don't think he is excluded, based on the fact that the compensation is from a regular US company. But I just thought I'd check to make sure I'm not missing anything that the rest of the world thinks is obvious. (Of course, it's a takeover, and of course, his employment date is several years ago...) Ed Snyder
J Simmons Posted October 8, 2008 Posted October 8, 2008 His U.S.-source income takes him outside the exclusion (i.e., if the minimum age and service conditions are met, he's eligible)--if in the plan you are dealing with it is written as allowed in the regs. John Simmons johnsimmonslaw@gmail.com Note to Readers: For you, I'm a stranger posting on a bulletin board. Posts here should not be given the same weight as personalized advice from a professional who knows or can learn all the facts of your situation.
david rigby Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Sounds like he is a resident alien. BTW, would it be different if he were "working here on a" Mastercard? I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
ERISAnut Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Sounds like he is a resident alien.BTW, would it be different if he were "working here on a" Mastercard? You are both right. While he is a alien, he is a resident with US source income. Can you 'Discover' the difference?
Bird Posted October 9, 2008 Author Posted October 9, 2008 Thanks...I guess I should go back and uncapitalize "Visa" but that would take all the fun out of this... Ed Snyder
mwyatt Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 The US income is the important distinction. We had a client that had employees in a factory down in the Dominican Republic who lived and were citizens down there. They were appropriately excluded. The non-resident aliens who were living up here in MA and working, they were in the plan.
DMcGovern Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 I agree that the employees on a VISA, with income they are paying US taxes on would be included. You probably have already told the client that they would benefit from using EPCRS procedures to correct this?
GBurns Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Would the wrongfully excluded employee benefit also ? George D. Burns Cost Reduction Strategies Burns and Associates, Inc www.costreductionstrategies.com(under construction) www.employeebenefitsstrategies.com(under construction)
DMcGovern Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 The new correction procedure (see IRB 2008-35) is for the employer to make a QNEC to the plan on behalf of the employee that replaces the "missed deferral opportunity". The QNEC is now 50% of the calculated missed deferral (used to be 100%). To calculate the missed deferral, you multiply the actual deferral percentage for the year (or each year missed) by the employee's compensation for that same year. The bulletin has examples in Appendix B If employer match was also missed, another QNEC would also have to be made on behalf of the participant. This QNEC is equal to the matching contribution the employee would have received on the full amount of deferrals calculated above (not the 50% QNEC deferral). Correction methods are different if the plan is a safe harbor plan
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