flosfur Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 I would appreciate your help in checking my calculation of Maximum Target Normal Cost for 2008 at various ages. Assumptions: Valuation - segment rates: 5.31 / 5.92 / 6.43%. Pre/Post retirement mortality: None / 2008 combined static mortality table (which is irrelevant if probability of lump sum payment at NRA is 100%). S417 - applicable rates: 4.85 / 5.02 / 5.09%. Pre/Post retirement mortality: None / 2008 applicable mortality table. Plan’s A/E: 5%/5%. Pre/Post retirement mortality: None / GAR 94. S415 maximum lump sum based on: 5.5% & GAR 94 mortality NRA: 62 / 2008 Max monthly accrual: 1,541.67 Probability of lump sum payment at NRA: 100%. Lump sum at NRA not to exceed S415 max lump sum. Age TNC 35 41,700 40 56,900 45 84,400 50 112,500 55 149,900 TNC is rounded to nearest $100.
Andy the Actuary Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Let's suppose max lump sum at 62 prevails for sake of argument. I calculate a factor of 145.47 Then, we have the following maximum TNC. 1541.67 x 145.47 divided by 35: 1.0643^27 = 41,690 40: 1.0643^22 = 56,932 45: 1.0592^17 = 84,361 50: 1.0592^12 = 112,468 55: 1.0592^7 = 149,941 I have changed these thanks to Jay (the 21 year old) who pointed out my numeratic senility. They agree with Flosfur's. The point being the other information doesn't enter into play. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
JAY21 Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Andy, I think you used the correct NRA of 62 for the target normal cost at age 55 but then for earlier ages it appears you switched to using an NRA of 65 for discount purposes. I think if you'll change that you'll match. I matched flosfur numbers and agree with his numbers.
FAPInJax Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 I believe the 415 lump sum rules now use the Applicable table for mortality.
Mike Preston Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 For 2008 it is optional and therefore needs an amendment to the plan to be taken into account for funding.
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