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Is anybody aware of a rule that would limit the ability of a volume submitter sponsor to maintain BOTH a DB and DC plan on a VS platform and rely on both advisory opinions (and, of course, not have to file either plan for an individual determination letter)? In other words, there is no rule that says that a plan sponsor can only maintain EITHER a DB OR a DC plan on a VS, is there? I can't find this issue addressed in the 2009 Rev. Procs.

Thank you.

pj

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No such limitation exists.

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The only limitation I can think of is that you probably would not have reliance on the opinion letters with respect to the requirements of sections 415 and 416.

Rev Proc 2005-16, Section 19:

.02 Nonstandardized M&P Plans and Volume Submitter Plans - An employer adopting a nonstandardized M&P or volume submitter plan may rely on that plan's opinion or advisory letter as described below if the employer's plan is identical to an approved M&P or specimen plan with a currently valid favorable opinion or advisory letter, the employer has chosen only options permitted under the terms of the approved plan, and the employer has followed the terms of the plan. Also see section 19.03(3) below. These employers can forego filing Form 5307 and rely on the plan's favorable opinion or advisory letter with respect to the qualification requirements, except as provided in section (1) through (4) and section 19.03 below.

(1) Except as provided in section 19.03(2), (3) and (4), adopting employers of nonstandardized M&P plans and volume submitter plans may not rely on a favorable opinion or advisory letter with respect to the requirements of:

(a) §§401(a)(4), 401(a)(26), 401(l), 410(b) or 414(s); or

(b) if the employer maintains or has ever maintained another plan covering some of the same participants, §§415 or 416.

For this purpose, whether an employer maintains or has ever maintained another plan will be determined using principles consistent with section 19.01 above.

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The only limitation I can think of is that you probably would not have reliance on the opinion letters with respect to the requirements of sections 415 and 416.

Rev Proc 2005-16, Section 19:

.02 Nonstandardized M&P Plans and Volume Submitter Plans - An employer adopting a nonstandardized M&P or volume submitter plan may rely on that plan's opinion or advisory letter as described below if the employer's plan is identical to an approved M&P or specimen plan with a currently valid favorable opinion or advisory letter, the employer has chosen only options permitted under the terms of the approved plan, and the employer has followed the terms of the plan. Also see section 19.03(3) below. These employers can forego filing Form 5307 and rely on the plan's favorable opinion or advisory letter with respect to the qualification requirements, except as provided in section (1) through (4) and section 19.03 below.

(1) Except as provided in section 19.03(2), (3) and (4), adopting employers of nonstandardized M&P plans and volume submitter plans may not rely on a favorable opinion or advisory letter with respect to the requirements of:

(a) §§401(a)(4), 401(a)(26), 401(l), 410(b) or 414(s); or

(b) if the employer maintains or has ever maintained another plan covering some of the same participants, §§415 or 416.

For this purpose, whether an employer maintains or has ever maintained another plan will be determined using principles consistent with section 19.01 above.

Thank you.

pj

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