ScottR Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 What techniques are used by large plans and/or annuity companies to verify that retirees in pay status are still living? i.e. what's to prevent relatives or the estate from continuing to cash retirement checks after the participant dies. Is there anything that can be printed on the check to prevent someone other than the payee from cashing it? Are any investigative services available? TIA. ... Scott
Guest Stuartt Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 One method is to use the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/
david rigby Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 Will direct deposit help? i.e., if the bank knows of the death, will this increase the likelihood of feedback from the bank? I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
SoCalActuary Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 One method is to use the Social Security Death Index (SSDI)http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ This technique is helpful if you reflect the lag in reporting. But we see plans paying annuities where teh SSDI still does not report a death that occurred last October, a 9 month lag. Better is to design the plan for a post-retirement death reporting incentive, such as a lump sum funeral benefit of a few thousand dollars, or 3 months payments if less. Then the beneficiaries have an incentive to report the event, and if they don't, you can offset the overpayments made against the death benefit. Another technique is to have some regular communications with the retirees, such as a birthday gift card, newsletter, etc. This keeps the retiree in touch with the company and reduces the negative emotional temptation to cheat on the former employer.
AndyH Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Will direct deposit help?i.e., if the bank knows of the death, will this increase the likelihood of feedback from the bank? Direct deposit is worse because there is no affirmative action needed for fraud in the case of a joint account, like there would be in signing a check made out to someone else. These can go undetected for years and the recipient can just play dumb. Some banks have verification services, the details of which I don't know. But for random inquiries I use SoCal's link all the time. I haven't noticed a problem with lag time.
Andy the Actuary Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 There are services that process bulk files of Social Security Numbers against SS and State records. I thought I saw some advertise some time ago on benefitslink. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
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