abanky Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 I know this has been discussed before, but... If the Aftap is 75 w/o cb, and 71 with cb... there doesn't have to be a deemed reduction of credit balances, correct? however, if the Aftap is 81 w/o cb and 79 with cb... there is a deemed reduction of cb to get the aftap to at least 80, correct?
david rigby Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 ...if the Aftap is 81 w/o cb and 79 with cb... there is a deemed reduction of cb to get the aftap to at least 80, correct? I thought the deemed reduction applies only if a 436 restriction would be eliminated. thus, if no (possible) restriction, no reduction. Have I missed something? I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
abanky Posted July 13, 2009 Author Posted July 13, 2009 That's what I meant... if the aftap is 79, there is a 436 restriction, so the CB would have to be reduced to bring the % to at least 80. I was just wanting to clarify to myself that a 436 restriction did exist and reduction of the CB would not fix it, than you are not required to reduce the CB.
david rigby Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 IRC 436(f)(3). Note, as spelled out in the (proposed) reg, the restriction is assumed to "apply" if any participant could be limited, without regard to the question "did any participant terminate/retire...?" I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
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