Guest 1stoppop Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 We have a participant in a DB plan who completed distribution forms for an annuity payout. The next day the payment was made. Four days later, participant requests a change to lump sum. Tax withholding has not yet been sent out, if amount is repaid, we could reverse the entry, but should we?
Andy the Actuary Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 What do plan, SPD, and election materials say? The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
david rigby Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Be very careful about bending the rules here. In all likelihood, it would be incorrect to assume "no harm in changing" just because the tax withholding has not yet been sent out. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
David MacLennan Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Your document probably does not allow for a change in form of payment after commencement of benefits, as it would be unusual. You could amend the plan to allow for it, but remember that this provides a more valuable benefit because of "selection" by participants (e.g., participant gets fatal disease and wants a lump sum).
Belgarath Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 On a somewhat related question - if the participant is prevented from receiving a lump sum payment due to AFTAP being too low, so receives an annuity payment in the interim, and the AFTAP subsequently gets back up to where it needs to be, the participant should be able to receive a lump sum equivalent to the remaining benefit?
AndyH Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Legal question: Did the spouse waive a QJSA in favor of a life annuity or other non QJSA and if so is a second waiver permitted relative to one Annuity Starting Date?
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