Dougsbpc Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 Are there any disadvantages to electing to add to the prefunding balance?
Andy the Actuary Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 (1) Could result in quarterly contributions being required for years subsequent to year added. (2) Could result in your not being able to use FSCOB for years subsequent to year added. (3) Could create larger amortization base. Look at this frozen plan (ignore interest) FT=900,000 Assets= 1,000,000 FSCOB=50,000 Excess contribution = 300,000 added to PFB which now = 300,000 Then, short fall=900,000 - (1,000,000-300,00-50,000)=250,000 (1) Quarterly contributions required next year (2) (1,000,000-300,000)/900,000=78%, so can't use FSCOB next year If don't add to PFB Shortfall = 900,000 - (1,000,000-50,000)=(50,000) no shortfall (1) Quarterly contributions not required next year (2) (1,000,000-0)/900,000=111% so can use FSCOB next year The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
SoCalActuary Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 My compromise would be to add to the PFB, but only a portion of the excess. To avoid quarterly, just get to 100%.
Andy the Actuary Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 SCA's suggestion is a good compromise, especially for Plans subject to PBGC notification, where you don't even want a chance your client will miss notifying the PBGC of missed quarterlies. For plans not subject to PBGC notification, quarterlies are not a problem. One way to deal with them for clients who are not concerned about paying the bare bones minimum and where there is 404 room is simply to determine the minimum required contribution [without getting upset over the nomenclature] as if it were all being paid 8 1/2 months after the close of the plan year. If paid sooner, than fine. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
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