stbennet Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 A terminated employee in a plan without any repayment provision is 100% vested and receives a full lump-sum distribution, and is subsequently rehired before a 5 year break-in-service. It seems that the plan repayment provision is not necessary since he received a full distribution. Can his prior service be disregarded?
SoCalActuary Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 Benefit service can be disregarded. Vesting service must be retained.
Andy the Actuary Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 The plan can still require a one-year wait to reparticipate. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
david rigby Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 What does the plan say? I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
stbennet Posted July 7, 2010 Author Posted July 7, 2010 The plan can still require a one-year wait to reparticipate. Thank you. That at least was covered in the document. Average compensation is significantly less after re-hire, so it was unclear if the accrued benefit should be calculated using the old comp and offset by the distribution or recalculated using the newer average compensation.
Andy the Actuary Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 It is common for DB plans to be silent regarding the calculation of average compensation for a re-hire. Suppose, for example, the plan says service attributable to a distribution is disregarded blah blah blah but the plan does not address includable compensation. In such case, follow the Plan, which would mean in the case of a plan calling for high consecutive average 3-years, use the average (if higher) used to compute the benefit on which the lump sum distribution was based. You would have no basis for doing otherwise. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
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