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I'd appreciate any help on a determination letter application we are filing for a cash balance plan.

Line 11a of the 5300 asks "For defined benefit plans - Method for determining accrued benefit." There is a very short blank there. The instructions don't really explain it further. The Plan is a cash balance that recently transitioned to a DB, so my inclination would be to answer this that the accrued benefit = the frozen accrued DB benefit + the actuarial equivalent of the hypothetical account. This would not fit in the small blank though, so I'd have to do an attachment. Am I missing a better easier way to answer this question?

I've seen 5300s for CB plans prepared elsewhere that put 133 1/3 on Line 11a.

Thanks in advance!

Posted

Interesting. I suggest your proposed response is reasonable.

However, you should have plenty of space, with creative "spelling". Something like "frozen AB + cash balance"?

I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.

Guest 409 eh?
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Thanks! That's some very practical advice that saves me an unnecessary schedule.

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