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I work with DC plans, but am in a DB plan at my part time job. The company removes 7 cents for every hour I work each weekly pay period and puts it in the plan. In order to be vested, I must work at least 750 hours per year for 4 years that I am a participant. Any service prior to becoming a participant does not count.

I started in the plan in August 2004. I have only worked between about 600 - 650 hours per year, as I only work 2 days a week over there. Since I never work enough hours each year, I don't earn the vested service. You can become vested by reaching a monetary plateau, of which I am almost halfway there. :blink:

My main question is that I thought it was required that DB plans issued statements to participants at least every three years. I get the SAR, but have never gotten a statement in the 6 years I have been in the plan. Shouldn't I be getting something, even though I am not vested, as I am putting money in this plan ($244.34 as of 7/8/2010)?

My part-time employer is one of the largest employers here in central FL and we do have a company intranet, but I have never been able to find info on the plan specfic to me here.

Thanks for your thoughts.

QKA, QPA, ERPA

 

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A couple of thoughts:

The company removes 7 cents for every hour I work each weekly pay period and puts it in the plan.
Do you see this on your pay stub as a deduction, or did someone just tell you that the plan costs 7 cents per hour? If it is an actual employee contribution, it must be 100% vested. Even if you are not vested in the employer provided benefit, your employee contributions would be returned, plus interest. (I assume this is not a union shop?)
My main question is that I thought it was required that DB plans issued statements to participants at least every three years.
Yes, they are required to furnish all participants with a statement every three years. If they are taking money out of your pay, then you are a participant, even if you are not vested. My experience is that not all employers are "on board" with this requirement yet. I suggest that you formally request a copy of your statement.

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Expanding on Effen's comments:

Employee contributions to DB plans are very unusual in the US, except in limited circumstances (such as a plan sponsored by a governemental unit). Make sure you heed Effen's advice about requesting your statement, and don't overlook the SPD.

I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.

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Is this a union plan? If so, maybe the contributions are not employee contributions after all. Does the PPA statement requirement apply to all union plans? Could it be a delayed provision? Just random thoughts while reading the comments.

Posted

Yes, I do see the deduction on my weekly paystub from the mouse.

I was looking at the SPD again, and it covers hourly employees in both union & non-union roles. My position is covered by a union (but I am not in it).

I thought I had called the benefits area a few years back with some questions, and one of the answers I got was that if I left the company I would receive what I put into the plan - with interest I think.

I do see that the plan is covered by the PBGC.

Thanks for your thoughts. I will contact them again to find out why I am not getting the statements I thought I should be...

QKA, QPA, ERPA

 

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The statement requirement only applies to vested participants. If you are entiled only to a refund, with our without interest, you must not be vested.

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