Dougsbpc Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 A small professional service employer had a DB plan for 5 years, terminated it and distributed benefits by 12/31/09. They are now seeing the tax bite of not having the plan and want to adopt a new DB plan effective for 2010. Is there a problem adopting a new plan within one year of terminating the prior plan?
david rigby Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 415? I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Dougsbpc Posted October 20, 2010 Author Posted October 20, 2010 Thanks David They should not have a 415 problem going forward as nobody accrued more than $900/mo per year of participation and they never had a DB plan before the prior plan. Their intention will be to have about the same level of benefits they had in the prior plan.
Andy the Actuary Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 401(a)(4) and grants of past service The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
Dougsbpc Posted October 27, 2010 Author Posted October 27, 2010 Thanks Andy. We will need to be careful with 401(a)(4) and past service credits. I think it will not be a problem in this case as the same employees would simply be resuming benefit accruals from the prior year.
Andy the Actuary Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 May not be quite that easy as you may need to look at all former employees as well if you grant more than 5 years of past service. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
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