dmb Posted December 7, 2010 Posted December 7, 2010 Plan with Top Paid Group Election has 10 employees prior year so top paid group is 2. There are 3 owners (>5%) and 7 staff. The highest paid employee is one of the owners, lets say $300,000. The next two highest paid are non-owners and they earn the same amount, lets say $250,000. Are both non-owners considered HCEs?? Thanks.
Tom Poje Posted December 7, 2010 Posted December 7, 2010 HCEs by comp you will have 2 owner and one other and you are allowed to use whatever tie breaker you want. flip a coin, etc. then you add back all other owners as HCE as well.
DMcGovern Posted December 8, 2010 Posted December 8, 2010 Plan with Top Paid Group Election has 10 employees prior year so top paid group is 2. There are 3 owners (>5%) and 7 staff. The highest paid employee is one of the owners, lets say $300,000. The next two highest paid are non-owners and they earn the same amount, lets say $250,000. Are both non-owners considered HCEs?? Thanks. Top paid group election only ranks them by comp - ownership is not a factor. So, you would have the one HCE with the highest comp and the next non-owner that has the next highest comp. However, the top paid election is only a compensation test and does not affect who is considered an HCE under the 5% owner test. So, the >5% owners not included under the top paid election would still be considered HCEs under the ownership test. Total of 4 HCEs
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