John Feldt ERPA CPC QPA Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I am looking at a document that defined a big accrual rate for the owner-employees, a middle-size accrual rate for each non-owner employee who meets the definition of a highly compensated employee for the determination year, and a wee little accrual rate for everyone else. When goldilocks receives lower compensation and thus changes from a non-owner HCE to a reguler NHCE, must she receive a 204(h) notice before her accrual formula can truly drop down to the wee little rate?
SoCalActuary Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 No 204(h) notice, because the employer did not cut back the formula. However, the employee should have a current SPD/SMM that explains what happens when they change status.
Andy the Actuary Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 So long as all the Big Bad Wolf does is huff, and puff, and blow your house down [ooops, wrong fairy tale] and does not amend the plan to reduce benefits, it doesn't seem 204(h) would apply. However, good practice would be to advise Goldilocks lest she thow her hot porridge in your face when she discovers that baby bear, who does very little work, is getting the greater benefit because of his birthrights. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
John Feldt ERPA CPC QPA Posted May 4, 2011 Author Posted May 4, 2011 Yep, the explanation is right there in the storybook - I mean, in the SPD. I am not sure the SPD defines clearly enough who/what an HCE is though - it has a reference to owners of the Employer and employees "whose compensation is in excess of of a level set by law".
Andy the Actuary Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 An NHCE is anyone who does not sleep with Pappa Bear. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
John Feldt ERPA CPC QPA Posted May 4, 2011 Author Posted May 4, 2011 What if goldilocks starts earning enough again to change back from NHCE to HCE? Assume the accrual rate is double for the HCE vs. the NHCE. Will the wolf declare that the plan has a 133 1/3 violation if she jumps up to that higher accrual formula?
Andy the Actuary Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 What if goldilocks starts earning enough again to change back from NHCE to HCE? Assume the accrual rate is double for the HCE vs. the NHCE. Will the wolf declare that the plan has a 133 1/3 violation if she jumps up to that higher accrual formula? No, the wolf might apply the 3% method. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
John Feldt ERPA CPC QPA Posted May 4, 2011 Author Posted May 4, 2011 What if the plan is a cash balance plan?
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