Effen Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 A doctor's practice and his wife's business are determined to be an Affiliated Service Group. The doctor's practice is considered a "professional services company" and his wife's business is not. The group sponsors a pension plan with 10 participants (8 with physician, 2 with wife). Are they exempt form PBGC coverage under the professional service exemption, or because the wife is not a professional service company they would not be able to meet the exemption? What if we excluded the wife's company from participation? The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
SoCalActuary Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 If you want to exclude the 2 employees, and that produces a non-discriminatory practice, then you can probably avoid PBGC coverage. Otherwise, you should submit the facts to the PBGC for a determination. Anything else is probably just speculation.
Effen Posted February 1, 2013 Author Posted February 1, 2013 Good idea. Spoke to the PBGC and they confirmed the group would be covered. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
david rigby Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Spoke to the PBGC and they confirmed the group would be covered.I'm shocked. Shocked! I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
John Feldt ERPA CPC QPA Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Might be a good thing - no 404(a)(7) limitation if you're PBGC covered.
Effen Posted February 3, 2013 Author Posted February 3, 2013 That is really the point. We wanted to make sure that we were covered so we could take a higher deduction. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
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