bdeancpa Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 It seems that once in the past I heard that an owner of an IRA was not allowed to pay any unrelated business income tax the IRA may owe. The tax must come out of the IRA. I can't seem to find any authorative guidance (however I have found some information by non-traditional IRA custodians on the Internet that says the same thing). Does anyone know why this is, and more importantly, does the same rule apply with respect to a qualified plan? Can a sponsor pay the Unrelated Business Income Tax for their retirement trust. Thanks for any help you can give. Dean Huber Dean Huber
Belgarath Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 I haven't done any research to see if there is a special PTE covering this situation, but in the absence of such a PTE, I don't see how this would avoid being a prohibited transaction.
bdeancpa Posted September 17, 2013 Author Posted September 17, 2013 Would you think a PTE is necessry because you see a sponsor paying this tax on behalf of the plan different than a sponser paying investment management fees, accounting fees, legal fees or other plan expenses on behalf of the plan? Many sponsors pay these later fees on behalf of a plan. I'm just trying to figure out if unrelated business income tax is considered "different" than other plan fees. For example, a sponsor can pay these fees I've mentioned but I know a sponsor cannot reiburse a plan for investment transaction fees (such as trade commissions). Dean Huber
Belgarath Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 The UBTI is clearly a tax liability of the trust. It isn't an administrtative "fee" for plan administration. So yes, I think it is different. I'd recommend you seek legal counsel before attempting to have the plan sponsor pay the tax.
jpod Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Payment of the IRA's tax liability should be treated as a contribution to the IRA, which may or may not be deductible, and which may or may not exceed the annual limit on IRA contributions (triggering the 6% excise tax). The more interesting question is how do you get the tax paid from IRA assets? If you distribute money to the IRA holder I suspect the custodian will automatically report it as a distribution on 1099-R, in which case you have a mess on your hands. Not sure if there is any IRS guidance explaining how this can get done without a double-whammy to the IRA holder.
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