Guest QDROsleuth Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I have a recently divorced employee who wants to 'liquidate' her account in our plan by awarding 100% to the ex. They intend to split the lump sum and go their separate ways. I cannot find any legal precedance to refuse the order. The document meets our terms, and just states that the ex gets everything. However, I know that the employee is essentially getting an early retirement distribution by filtering it through her ex. Any thoughts?
david rigby Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Likely you cannot "refuse the order". (BTW, does the plan have written QDRO procedures?) Search this message board for the 2 or 3 discussions on the court case involving Continental Airlines. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
CADMT Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 You cannot refuse the order if it conforms to plan rules. Additionally it is the Participant's money and the fact that he or her may have found a way to avoid the early distribution penalty is really no skin off your nose. However, I question whether either party can avoid the penalty anyway since the Alternate Payee effectively becomes a Participant after the division and should be bound by the same rules as the Participant, especially in regards to the early distribution. You did not provide their age so it is not possible to tell if age is a factor. If they take a distribution and roll it over into an IRA or other retirement vehicle, then no harm or foul, but aside from the fact that the plan should be treating the Alternate Payee the same as they treat a Participant, both the P and AP have to deal with the IRS and will have to account to for the distribution.
GMK Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 ^ As I recall, payments to an alternate payee under a QDRO are not subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty.
K2retire Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 There was a case a few years ago where a number of participants were getting divorces in order to obtain QDROs then getting remarried. The court ruled that whether or not the divorce was a sham was not the plan's concern. I would imagine this would be treated the same.
david rigby Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 http://benefitslink.com/boards/index.php?/topic/43688-sham-divorce I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
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