Dougsbpc Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 A plan document interim amendment was signed 12/31/2012. As part of this good-faith interim amendment, the plan was amended effective for plan years beginning in 2012 to incorporate MAP-21 provisions and rates. As part of the amendment, a plan sponsor could elect to delay MAP-21 to plan years beginning in 2013 or to apply the MAP-21 provisions just for the AFTAP. Question: must there be a written election to the plan actuary to use the MAP-21 rates? Or does the signed amendment incorporating those rates suffice? Thanks.
Effen Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 The default was to use MAP-21. Plan sponsors could elect NOT to use MAP-21 in 2012. This was done with a written election to the actuary. Since MAP was passed so late in the year, many 2012 valuations had already been completed based on the PPA rules. In order to avoid requiring everyone to redo their 2012 valuations, the sponsors were permitted to defer the impact for funding until 2013. I would argue the funding elections have nothing to do with the good faith amendment. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
Rball4 Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 MAP-21 was the law. You only needed an election form to opt out of it for the 2012 plan year.
Dougsbpc Posted February 6, 2014 Author Posted February 6, 2014 Thanks for the clarification. What about a plan that used the full yield curve prior to 2012? Was there a special election that had to be signed by July 5, 2013 to revoke use of the full yield curve effective for 2012 and future years? What if the interim amendment was signed prior to July 5, 2013?
david rigby Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 See IRS Notice 2012-61, http://www.irs.gov/irb/2012-42_IRB/ar10.html Q&A E4 and E5. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Effen Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 The interim amendment has nothing to do with the funding election. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
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