ombskid Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 The maximum accrual in a year is 1/10 of the 415 dollar limit. For a person well below the 17,500/mo 415 dollar limit, are they limited to 1/10 x 17,500 or 1/10 x 100% of their pay?
Lou S. Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Max accrued benefit for participant less than 10 years = YOP / 10 * 415(b) $ limit Max accrued benefit for service less than 10 years = YOS / 10 * 415(b) % of pay limit/ Max accrued benefit is lessor of 2 above. You are not limited to accruing 1/10 of the 415 limit per year unless you only have 1 year of participant/service.
My 2 cents Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 Note that both amounts are with respect to life annuities deferred to the plan's Normal Retirement Age (if NRA is between 62 and 65). The limits do not apply with respect to contributions. If you are talking about a cash balance plan, the limit is with respect to the benefit that can be provided by the pay credit. The limits do not apply directly to the pay credit. So the pay credit, while not providing an annuity of more than 1/10th of the 415 limit, can be larger than 1/10th of the 415 limit. Depending on age, the pay credit could well be in excess of $60,000 for a given year. Always check with your actuary first!
ombskid Posted March 24, 2014 Author Posted March 24, 2014 New plan one owner no employees Age 52. NRA 62. 8 years past service max accrual 1st year = lesser of 1 /10 x 17,500 or 8/10 x 100% of pay Is that correct?
John Feldt ERPA CPC QPA Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Seems right. The service piece might be 9/10 x 100% of pay - if 8 years is past service and one year is current service. Assumes life annuity form of benefit. No prior DB plan with that employer.
ombskid Posted March 24, 2014 Author Posted March 24, 2014 Thanks all. 90% of pay just seemed too high!
Effen Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Also remember that "pay" is the average of the highest 3 consecutive years. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
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