Pension RC Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I am involved in a DB plan termination. A couple of participants are non-spouse beneficiaries who are receiving the remaining portion of a period certain annuity. If there choose to rollover the lump sum value of their annuity, would it need to be to an inherited IRA? Would they be able to roll it over to the company's 401k profit sharing plan? Any help would be appreciated!
david rigby Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 I'll take a stab at this: 1. No. 2. No, unless the beneficiary is already a participant in the 401k plan (eg, an employee). I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
QDROphile Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Does No #1 mean (a) they cannot roll over or (b) they can roll over but it need not be an inherited IRA?
david rigby Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 By (1), I mean there is no requirement that the receiving IRA be an inherited IRA (assuming I understand the question correctly). I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Kevin C Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 From the model tax notice in Notice 2009-68: If you are a surviving beneficiary other than a spouse. If you receive a payment from the Plan because of the participant's death and you are a designated beneficiary other than a surviving spouse, the only rollover option you have is to do a direct rollover to an inherited IRA. Payments from the inherited IRA will not be subject to the 10% additional income tax on early distributions. You will have to receive required minimum distributions from the inherited IRA. The plan will also need to make sure the current year RMD is distributed. I looked into the RMD issue last year with a plan we terminated that allowed retirees to elect a lump sum and reached the conclusion that the remaining amount scheduled to be distributed during the year under the annuity form was the RMD portion of the lump sum.
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