rocknrolls2 Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Employer X maintains a cash balance plan. It wants to amend the cash balance plan so that it only has to make a principal credit for a plan year if an employee is employed on the last day of the plan year. Is there any reason they cannot do this? Thanks,
Lou S. Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Because that would violate the DB accrual rules.
rocknrolls2 Posted August 11, 2015 Author Posted August 11, 2015 Could you be more specific as to which DB accrual rules such a provision would violate? Thank you.
ETA Consulting LLC Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 In a DB plan, any eligible employee who works at least 1000 hours during the year must be credited with a benefit. The last day of the plan year concept is specific to DC plans only. Good Luck! Lou S. 1 CPC, QPA, QKA, TGPC, ERPA
My 2 cents Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Please make no mistake - cash balance plans are always defined benefit plans, no matter how much they are disguised to look like defined contribution plans. None of the defined contribution rules apply to them and all of the defined benefit rules apply (i.e., PBGC premiums, no lump sums without spousal consent, no last day rule, minimum contributions that may be greater or less than the "principal credit" - there is no necessary correlation between the assets held by the plan and the total of the account balances, etc.). And don't forget that an annual valuation by an enrolled actuary is always required! And if the enrolled actuary certifies an AFTAP below 80%, lump sum payments are subject to restriction under IRC Section 436. ETA Consulting LLC and Lou S. 2 Always check with your actuary first!
david rigby Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Here is a lively discussion from July 2014:http://benefitslink.com/boards/index.php/topic/55910-benefit-accrual-different-methods/ I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
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