DTH Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 An employer has a 401(a) plan with a pick-up of 4% of compensation and also has a 457(b) plan. An employee makes $50,000, so $2,000 will be picked up and contributed to the 401(a) plan. The employee is deferring 10% of compensation. Do you take 10% of $50,000 or $48,000? Is this dependent on the 457(b) plan's definition of compensation? I think no matter what the plan's definition of contribution compensation is it would be $48,000 because pick-up contributions are considered employer contributions. Can you please confirm this. Thank you.
Carol V. Calhoun Posted March 12, 2016 Posted March 12, 2016 The plan can define compensation any way it wants, for purposes of defining what a participant's election means. And in my experience, they typically define it to include the picked-up amounts as compensation, because most employees think of pick-ups as being mandatory employee contributions (even though for federal tax purposes, they are treated as employer contributions). Let's look at it this way: The person who makes $50,000, and whose pick-up is $2,000, could clearly contribute $5,000. If for some reason the IRS were to take the position that the plan's definition of compensation had to be $48,000, the person could simply defer 10.42% of compensation instead of 10%. Why would the IRS care whether the plan said that the person was treated as deferring 10% or 10.42% of compensation? Clearly, the maximum limit is no more than 100% of includible compensation, and includible compensation does not include pick-ups. But the 100% of includible compensation maximum limit is seldom relevant anyway. (It would apply only to someone whose compensation was less than $18,000, and few people with that level of compensation want to put the maximum into a 457 plan.) So what plans often do is to have a definition of compensation for purpose of determining deferrals that includes pick-ups, and a separate definition of includible compensation for purposes of determining the maximum which excludes pick-ups. Employee benefits legal resource site The opinions of my postings are my own and do not necessarily represent my law firm's position, strategies, or opinions. The contents of my postings are offered for informational purposes only and should not be construed as legal advice. A visit to this board or an exchange of information through this board does not create an attorney-client relationship. You should consult directly with an attorney for individual advice regarding your particular situation. I am not your lawyer under any circumstances.
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