Belgarath Posted July 27, 2016 Posted July 27, 2016 Suppose you have corporation A, which sponsors a plan. Corporation B is formed, and is owned 70% by Corporation A, and 30% by an unrelated investor - no options, etc., so not a controlled group. (nor is it an ASG) Corporation B is very small, and the owners of A want to just include B's employee's in A's plan. Their pre-approved document contains multiple employer provisions, so they can sign on as a participating employer - no problem there. Question is, does a separate 5500 form need to be filed for each? This doesn't appear to be an "open" MEP as discussed under AO 2012-04A, and given the 70% ownership, it seems like this should be sufficient to consider it as one plan for 5500 purposes? Any thoughts? I realize this is a matter for legal counsel to determine, but I'd like to formulate some thoughts before it reaches that stage... Thanks.
chc93 Posted July 27, 2016 Posted July 27, 2016 We have the same situation. Corp B signs on as a participating employer to Corp A's plan. One 5500 with "multiple-employer plan" checked in Part I A, and attached a list of the participating employers as noted in instructions. Note... small plan (<100 participants).
Belgarath Posted July 27, 2016 Author Posted July 27, 2016 Thanks. In this case, Corp. A's plan is a large plan requiring audit, so we're also going to ask the auditing firm to see if they have any problem with it.
Bill Presson Posted July 27, 2016 Posted July 27, 2016 Belgarath: Asking the auditing firm if they have any problem with it presumes they will know what they're talking about. Unfortunately, I haven't found that to be the case with the majority of CPA firms. Since the two firms in the OP's example have a relationship, I'm not aware of any issue with it being considered a single plan John Feldt ERPA CPC QPA 1 William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
Belgarath Posted July 28, 2016 Author Posted July 28, 2016 Thanks Bill. Yeah, in addition to just the ownership, Corporation B also gets about 2/3rd of its business from corporation A, so it seems fairly safe. Bill Presson 1
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