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Two Plans with different Plan Year Ends
Bill Presson replied to Dougsbpc's topic in Cross-Tested Plans
If it’s overfunded, why is the money still invested? -
401k Plan Referral with No Plan Document In Place
Bill Presson replied to Emily's topic in 401(k) Plans
I would recommend ERISA counsel immediately. We’ll help with missing restatements but not the lack of actually establishing a plan. -
Excess Contribution - Safe Match must be Funded
Bill Presson replied to Vlad401k's topic in 401(k) Plans
The document will specify. -
Rollover money never counts in the incidental test. “Seasoned” money is a euphemism for the ability of a plan to allow distributions of profit sharing money held in the plan for two years. You get out of the incidental test because it’s taxed just like any profit sharing money distributed after two years. The insurance companies like to cloak that aspect.
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Rollovers don’t count in the incidental test. That means your premiums have to be less than 50% of nonrollover funds. You don’t get to ignore the test by paying with rollover money. Also look at the document. Many say the insurance must be surrendered at retirement age.
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Family attribution rules and control group
Bill Presson replied to TennesseeVeteran's topic in Retirement Plans in General
Yes ma’am. There is no attribution under 1563 between the father and the son under the circumstances you describe. -
HUGE QDRO mistake
Bill Presson replied to Confused Guy 1989's topic in Qualified Domestic Relations Orders (QDROs)
You’ve received plenty of advice above so I’ve got nothing to add to that. But kudos to you for wanting to do right by your ex. That’s not very common in the QDRO messages from regular people. -
Have the plan sponsor return the money to the advisory firm and have them reissue a check (or ACH) to the plan.
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FT William and IRIS (1099-Rs)
Bill Presson replied to AllThingsForGood's topic in Distributions and Loans, Other than QDROs
Just use Penchecks Trust for all the distributions and you don’t have to worry about it. -
Starting Up a 401k Plan After Terminating a DB Plan
Bill Presson replied to mming's topic in 401(k) Plans
The one year delay only applies to starting a 401(k) after terminating a different 401(k). Using a 401(k) in the scenario you describe is very common. -
Top-Paid vs Lookback - 2 plans & different options
Bill Presson replied to Jakyasar's topic in Retirement Plans in General
Ahh. Didn’t realize you meant two plans with the same sponsor. I’ll be curious to see others thoughts. -
Top-Paid vs Lookback - 2 plans & different options
Bill Presson replied to Jakyasar's topic in Retirement Plans in General
Jak, I’m confused about your concern on the look back definition of an HCE. To me, that’s just the standard way of determining an HCE. -
Ms Gina, bless your heart and good luck!
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Can a plan require 150 hrs in a month? I thought it was limited to 83.33.
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RMD on a small amount in DBP
Bill Presson replied to Jakyasar's topic in Retirement Plans in General
I would just pay it all out. Covers the RMD and isn’t a burden from a tax perspective. -
Jak, First - it would have to be in the document before the start of the plan year. Second - all depends on the numbers and we didn’t get any. Third - if the owner has w-2 in excess of the comp limit even after the bonus is excluded, the answer is very likely that it would fail.
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For the calculation, no. For understanding the calculation and not screwing it up that one year the w-2 IS lower? Yes.
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Assuming your post is accurate, the w-2 comp from the s corp is the only earned income for the docs and the person saying otherwise is wrong and needs to start over in pension school.
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It’s not safe harbor meaning it eliminates ADP testing. Just means no a4 testing on the profit sharing allocations. The deferrals have no impact on the PS allocation. It will be something like: 1. everyone gets equal percent up to 5.7% on all compensation 2. Then anyone with compensation in excess of the TWB gets 5.7% of that comp that doesn’t exceed the max limit. 3. then any remaining PS money gets allocated pro rata for everyone. this assumes all eligibility and allocation requirements had already been applied.
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It is a “safe harbor” allocation meaning there is no a4 testing. The allocation steps will be in the document.
